The olde TV licence

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https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/cs/no-licence-needed/index.app

To be perfectly frank you should just fill in their no declaration form.

Remember, given its the property that needs the license, not the occupier, the only information they need is: Address & No license needed. Feel free to have fun with the other options, primarily, the name and title field, which includes Doctor, Dame, Lord, Lady, Reverend, Professor and Sir.

Sir John Harrington has absolutely no need for a tv license at this address.
 
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Many people have made the mistake of contacting tvl and giving them their name and telling them that they don't need a license. Then they come around right away to search your house and if you are not willing to comply with your house being searched then they won't believe you and as you have given them all your information and essentially signed a contract with them in the process, they can take you to court much easier. Plus its not permanent, even if you do let them search your house, often that doesn't get put on the system and you still receive letters and people knocking asking to search your house, it just doesn't end. If you are lucky enough for them to put it on the system, after 1 year it expires and you have to go through it all again with the house searched and the visits and the letters. It is far easier in the end to just ignore them. There has even been a few cases where the tvl are let in to the house and then lie about what they find.
 
That's not even true though is it.

I bought a house, wasn't going to have a TV setup for a few months so I filled in the form online. Never heard anything from them.

When got my TV setup I went back online and paid for my licence.

Hardly a big problem.
 
Am I the only person who filled in the online form confirming I don't need a licence and have not been hassled since. Simply got an automated confirmation email confirming I don't need a licence.
 
anything I don't mind said:
Many people have made the mistake of contacting tvl and giving them their name and telling them that they don't need a license. Then they come around right away to search your house and if you are not willing to comply with your house being searched then they won't believe you and as you have given them all your information and essentially signed a contract with them in the process, they can take you to court much easier. Plus its not permanent, even if you do let them search your house, often that doesn't get put on the system and you still receive letters and people knocking asking to search your house, it just doesn't end. If you are lucky enough for them to put it on the system, after 1 year it expires and you have to go through it all again with the house searched and the visits and the letters. It is far easier in the end to just ignore them. There has even been a few cases where the tvl are let in to the house and then lie about what they find.
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That's just made up.

Every couple of years they probe me as I don't have a license. I tell them I don't need one and that's it for a couple of years.
 
kohlditz said:
That's just made up.

Every couple of years they probe me as I don't have a license. I tell them I don't need one and that's it for a couple of years.
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Aye which is pretty reasonable given they've been given the task of collecting it by the government, and house ownership/situations do change (often every few months in some parts of the country).

I sometimes get the impression that some people really quite like the drama they can get out of refusing to contact the TVL at all, then getting a letter every few months asking them to either let them know they don't need a licence and warning them of the risks if they do need one but don't get it.
I wish that other taxes the government imposes were as easy to opt out of, and as easy to comply with if needed.
 
anything I don't mind said:
Many people have made the mistake of contacting tvl and giving them their name and telling them that they don't need a license. Then they come around right away to search your house and if you are not willing to comply with your house being searched then they won't believe you and as you have given them all your information and essentially signed a contract with them in the process, they can take you to court much easier. Plus its not permanent, even if you do let them search your house, often that doesn't get put on the system and you still receive letters and people knocking asking to search your house, it just doesn't end. If you are lucky enough for them to put it on the system, after 1 year it expires and you have to go through it all again with the house searched and the visits and the letters. It is far easier in the end to just ignore them. There has even been a few cases where the tvl are let in to the house and then lie about what they find.
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You need to take your tinfoil hat off it seems to be interfering with your I.Q. :confused:
 
MatsyLR said:
TV Licences are silly.
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Not really when you look at the reasoning behind it, which is generally to provide a basic level of reasonable quality TV that can be accessed without special equipment and is easily usable even for the poorest.

The fact that (in the UK at least) the TVL effectively forces the commercial operators to at least pretend they care about the quality of their own content*, provides what is pretty much the largest on the job training for the film & TV industry in the country (I don't think any of the ITV franchises do much if any now), and possibly most importantly, content that simply isn't expected to be profitable.

We're reasonably lucky in the UK in that we have a TVL which is set up in such a way that we do not get adverts on the channels it funds, we can opt out, and we don't have separate fees for things like car radios.
Most of Europe operates a TVL of some kind, often at a much higher rate and with either no opt out at all if you own a TV, or additional fees if for example you own a car radio.

This doesn't take into account that the BBC tends to be the organisation that (in the UK) ends co-ordinating a very large amount of the R&D and testing of new hardware and systems for broadcasting, either working on it's own, or in association with manufacturers and foreign broadcasters (for example the BBC's technical expertise means that it does things like help testing new broadcast tech before the European standard is set).
From memory the likes of Sky and ITV etc all make use of standards and technology that was either originally created by the BBC, or first tested (and then developed with the manufacturers taking onboard feedback) by the BBC's various technical and research/development sections.
I think there was even a wish for the BBC to share it's Iplayer tech with other broadcasters that would have gone ahead except for complaints from commercial developers who complained about the competition issues, even with that from memory the BBC made it as easy as possible for device manufacturers to implement the iplayer on all platforms by making key parts of the dev kit open source.


*If only because if say ITV lets the quality drop too far in comparison to the BBC, ITV's advertisers will not be happy at the lack of viewers (whilst at the same time the BBC is free to do more niche content rather than yet another talent show to find someone Simon Cowel can make money from).
 
Just ignore the letter I have a care home and we had 32 turn up one for each room. If they ever do turn up they will never get in. I did get a phone call from them wanting to know all the names of the people who lived in the care home. They said it was my responsibility to inform them of the names. I don't know why they started writing to us the average age of a person is in a care home is 85 in our care home it is 88 years old. It's not like they are going to get any money from any of the residents.
 
bsoltan said:
That's not even true though is it.

I bought a house, wasn't going to have a TV setup for a few months so I filled in the form online. Never heard anything from them.

When got my TV setup I went back online and paid for my licence.

Hardly a big problem.
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Do you mean to claim that his account it is untrue based solely on your personal experience being different thus suggesting that your experience is the definitive one?
 
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