Motorcyclists Last Seconds Captured On GoPro

bloodiedathame said:
Stereotyping at it's finest.
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Oh, indeed. I'm well aware that not every motorcyclist out there behaves like that. It's just what the slogan speaks to me as I see people acting that way on the roads much too often. Their vulnerability, being on a bike, is what makes it stick in your head so strongly; you end up actively taking those few moments trying to figure out what on earth they're thinking.

Thankfully it's extremely rare that I see it, but the mental face-palming is extreme when you come across a motorcyclist tail-gating a car. I mean... what?
 
On first look I think its a little unfair that the driver was prosecuted.

The driver would have looked up the road possibly seen the bike 100's of meters down the road. Then he would have looked into the space he was traveling into possibly then seeing the rider in his peripheral vision just before impact.
 
a lot of differing opinion on this. Saw it on Facebook yesterday, a lot of my friends being in the NHS are circulating it.

I have to agree there is plenty of 'blame' to go around. The bike in the first instance is driving at a stupid speed, should have seen the junction ahead and slowed down, not assumed that the car would see him (Albeit he may not of seen the car himself!)

Motorbikes sometimes can be hard to see.. but on a road like that the Clio should have seen something.. if there was a brow of a hill or something id understand but, I don't think he scoped the road as well as he should, but again, speed has a lot to play in it as I said.. moving a football pitch in 2 seconds is a fair distance!
 
As a biker and a car driver I see both sides of the story, the amount of idiots in cars that pull out without looking or thinking makes me wonder how there arnt more accidents on the roads. From the other point of view the biker was doing silly speeds overtaking in an unsafe place.

What I wont condone though is anyone saying that on a clear bend free road either party can use the excuse of not seeing. Even at 250m away both vehicles the car and the bike should have been visible 250m is not that far we are talking less than 300 yards if the adverage golfer can identify a tiny white blob 250 yards away then an object 1000's of times bigger should easily be identifiable. That works both ways the car driver should have seen the biker and not pulled out and in return the biker should have seen the car and adjusted his speed and road position to ensure his own safety

Its sad to see the loss of life but for the greater good two idiots are off the road
 
mattyg said:
On first look I think its a little unfair that the driver was prosecuted.

The driver would have looked up the road possibly seen the bike 100's of meters down the road. Then he would have looked into the space he was traveling into possibly then seeing the rider in his peripheral vision just before impact.
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Yeah this is a fair point. You get pretty accustomed to how much distance a car can cover at 60mph so you know when to and when not to pull out. I doubt many people have experience with things traveling at 100mph.

Still, the driver said they didn't see them at all, which shows they weren't really paying attention, rather than just misjudging the distance.
 
I think both are at fault but I feel that the majority of the blame should lie with the motorcyclist. 100mph is a ridiculous speed to travel on a road where someone may turn across your path. On a dual carriageway or motorway with a barrier in the middle it would be more understandable.
 
Guy was irresponsible and didn't really give himself a chance. Almost a 100mph into a road junction. It's one thing being seen, another giving others the chance to see you. Another life lost needlessly, and judging by the damage to the Clio it could have easily be more than one. But even from the off as he left the car park he was up above the limit by the time he was in second by the looks of the video.

Fair play to his old mum for releasing the footing in the hope of helping the road safety campaign. But even her comments "I knew he rode fast that day, he loved speed" what can you say to that?
 
Both at fault - props to the car driver for doing the right thing and admitting fault (I think I would have to in such a circumstance). Agree we all make mistakes, nobody's perfect.
 
grimm said:
I think both are at fault but I feel that the majority of the blame should lie with the motorcyclist. 100mph is a ridiculous speed to travel on a road where someone may turn across your path. On a dual carriageway or motorway with a barrier in the middle it would be more understandable.
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You don't think the driver should get the weight of the blame for pulling across the give way line with a bike 100m away which they simply didn't look hard enough to see?

The court thought they should (get the weight of the blame), of course.
 
Do people think if the driver had said "i thought i had time to make the manoeuvre" he would have not be prosecuted?
 
The car driver was clearly to blame but the bikers speed played a big part in this collision as well. If he was going slower he may have had a chance of surviving.
 
The driver of the car was obviously partially to blame due to his lack of awareness of what's coming towards him, however to throw the book at him for dangerous driving seems way OTT to me considering the speed the bike was going.
 
cheesyboy said:
You don't think the driver should get the weight of the blame for pulling across the give way line with a bike 100m away which they simply didn't look hard enough to see?

The court thought they should (get the weight of the blame), of course.
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100m would be enough distance to pull out and take the turn if the bike was traveling at 60mph, the limit. The driver has no reason to assume the bike is doing 100mph.
 
SpeedFreak said:
Except that if he was doing 60mph he would have probably scrubbed enough speed for the impact to be at 40-50mph. That in effect would be an accident with a quarter of the energy and surely a much higher probability of survival.

Ultimately his actions were not suitable for the conditions and he has unfortunately paid the ultimate price for this misjudgement. Fortunately there was nobody in the passenger seat of the car as far as I could tell.
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Yet the accident would probably still have happened. While speed was possibly the cause of the death (he may well have died doing 60), the accident was caused mostly by a driver not looking properly before turning.

I'm surprised the car driver didn't get a longer sentence, but then I'm always surprised how lenient courts are to dangerous drivers.
 
leigh_boy said:
the way I see it the car caused the collision , the speed killed the motorcyclist
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This^

I ride a bike every day to work and the amount of people on their phones and basically being unaware is unbelievable.

Leigh_boy has nailed it imo


I see so many car drivers looking at their ****ing smartphones while driving it really does grind me gears!
/rantover
 
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