With both hands on the bars.
Motorcyclists Last Seconds Captured On GoPro
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With both hands on the bars.
Imagine he'd been going the speed limit too. He'd have probably been able to stop safely and avoid the impact.
I agree you have absolutely know way of knowing the speed of the vehicle approaching however if you take 2 second to look at the approaching vehicle you will know if you the have the time to make it a cross the road
You look at the vehicle and judge how much ground it's covering and question whether you have enough time to make it across the road and then proceed according to the outcome of your judgement. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that how your supposed to navigate a junction whether you're, in a car, motorbike or a pedestrian.
To anyone paying attention, a vehicle chewing up 44 metres of tarmac every second would appear to be going fast and you would know that the vehicle is going fast (you wouldn't know it speed though). A vast majority of drivers would not take a turn if they saw a vehicle approaching them at 44m/s.
My driving instructor always told me to take my time, you would be surprised how many people don't do this and make dangerous manoeuvres.
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Or the car that admitted to NOT seeing him (NOT misjudging his speed, just plain not seeing him on a straight road) might have still hit him? and who knows if he would have lived then or not.
I'm not saying speed was not a factor in this, it was. Like i said BOTH parties were at fault.
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Watched this a few times now. Not read the whole thread.
The simple facts are the bike should have been doing 60mph. The fact it wasnt now means that driver is dead, the polo driver has to deal with it along with a ban etc.
Had the bike been doing less speed none of this may have happened. We never know maybe he may have lived.
Every driver, EVERY DRIVER will have a moment of lapse of concentration in their driving over a lifetime.
I am sure we have all had a journey where when we get home we don't remember the trip? did I slow down for such and such a camera, etc.
regardless the video is very sad. I saw it last night where it made me take a deep breath in and make you think..... its all to easy....
Rip driver, and shame for the polo driver.
The simple facts are the bike should have been doing 60mph. The fact it wasnt now means that driver is dead, the polo driver has to deal with it along with a ban etc.
Had the bike been doing less speed none of this may have happened. We never know maybe he may have lived.
Every driver, EVERY DRIVER will have a moment of lapse of concentration in their driving over a lifetime.
I am sure we have all had a journey where when we get home we don't remember the trip? did I slow down for such and such a camera, etc.
regardless the video is very sad. I saw it last night where it made me take a deep breath in and make you think..... its all to easy....
Rip driver, and shame for the polo driver.
They were both at fault, the car driver careless and the biker stupid.
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1) Why was the biker overtaking the car at the start when it was a section of crossed lines?
2) Why was he going nigh on 100?
3) Why did he have a GoPro strapped to him?
Bikers are their own worst enemy, not car drivers.
2) Why was he going nigh on 100?
3) Why did he have a GoPro strapped to him?
Bikers are their own worst enemy, not car drivers.
We'll never know, but my opinion is that the driver DID see the biker but misjudged how long they had to turn right, due to the biker doing 97MPH.
Driver should have simply waitied, no doubt at all about that, but i strongly believe if that biker had been doing 60 in that situation he'd be alive today.
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No, but it does maybe give some perspective to your suggestion that people were retards for thinking what he did was maybe a tad dangerous. It was - they were both stupid as I said and very avoidable by both parties.
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My god, that was some speed!
facts are at 60mph the bike rider had so much more time to deal with the situation, ok no guarantees but not only may the car had stomed his brakes a bit sooner but the bike had more time to react.
Speed killed this rider imo.
Speed killed this rider imo.
Indeed, you just do not approach a junction at 100mph, it's indefensible for precisely the reason shown in the vid.
Why is the UK's ethos 'learn to a test passing standard and then instantly regress'? Quite a common and worrying phrase I hear is 'you only need wing mirrors for the test'. It's bizarre to me. I like to think I've become a better driver since passing my test, improving my roadcraft, not getting lazy and worse.
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as a biker who rides all year round and has been involved in a serious accident before videos like this continue to make me fell nauseous to this day. These should be a better deterrent to speeding than any other campaign the government throw out.
As "road users" we all know the kind of people who speed regardless of what vehicle they drive, and when they go past us we all think to ourselves one day their luck will run out and thats what happened.
While the biker was clearly riding to fast i have to wonder if like most bikers he was riding with his headlight on. (most sport bike manufacturers will have a headlight enabled at all times just not full beam). For me this makes it more tragic that the motorist didnt see the biker approaching.
Regardless of this a man has lost his life due to a moment of recklessness, and another has to live the rest of his life reliving the moment and the result of his lack of concentration (by his own admission)
As a biker i know how vulnerable i am on the road and ride accordingly, unfortunately you cant legislate for the actions of others no matter how you ride and im sure road users of all kinds can quote too many examples of someone driving like an idiot
As "road users" we all know the kind of people who speed regardless of what vehicle they drive, and when they go past us we all think to ourselves one day their luck will run out and thats what happened.
While the biker was clearly riding to fast i have to wonder if like most bikers he was riding with his headlight on. (most sport bike manufacturers will have a headlight enabled at all times just not full beam). For me this makes it more tragic that the motorist didnt see the biker approaching.
Regardless of this a man has lost his life due to a moment of recklessness, and another has to live the rest of his life reliving the moment and the result of his lack of concentration (by his own admission)
As a biker i know how vulnerable i am on the road and ride accordingly, unfortunately you cant legislate for the actions of others no matter how you ride and im sure road users of all kinds can quote too many examples of someone driving like an idiot
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People pull out in front of others at junctions inappropriately all the time, misjudging speed, just impatient whatever. It's happened to me numerous times, if I am approaching a junction which has cars waiting to manoeuvre I a: Watch them like a hawk b: slow down and be ready to stop if I have to. Same goes for roundabouts, if someone is indicating left to exit I don't just assume that is what they are going to do, you have to look at the situation as a whole, their speed, road position.