Nation of meat eating animal lovers?

spoffle · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:47

The hypocrisy is becoming comical

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:52

A figure from 1975 when the population was low.

Brilliant...

FACT they even state this themselves.

The Badger population is currently very strong and increasing more so

Mynight · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:53

Not that I support badger culling as they're cute things however vicious but why would you waste the money culling them if it wasn't a threat? :confused:

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SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:54

wilber said:
A figure from 1975 when the population was low.

Brilliant...

FACT they even state this themselves.

The Badger population is currently very strong and increasing more so

Those were the results of the 2013 cull.

I heard the full programme on radio 4.

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:56

SkodaMart said:
Those were the results of the 2013 cull.

I heard the full programme on radio 4.

You quoted from that site....

1/3 badgers are infected with TB in hotspot areas.

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:56

Mynight said:
Not that I support badger culling as they're cute things however vicious but why would you waste the money culling them if it wasn't a threat? .

If what wasn't a threat?

cheesyboy · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:57

Mynight said:
Not that I support badger culling as they're cute things however vicious but why would you waste the money culling them if it wasn't a threat? .

The culls are somewhat experimental. That's why there's no national roll-out.

A friend of mine worked on the project about 8 or 9 years ago, killing badgers in Gloucestershire. I believe they've consistently struggled to hit the cull numbers required to fully test the badger= TB in cattle theory to come up with a reliable conclusion.

SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:58

Mynight said:
Not that I support badger culling as they're cute things however vicious but why would you waste the money culling them if it wasn't a threat? .

There are better ways of controlling bovine TB such as the vaccination of cattle and badgers.

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 22:58

SkodaMart said:
There are better ways of controlling bovine TB such as the vaccination of cattle and badgers.

Vaccination does not cure an animal that has already contracted the disease

And what legal vaccine am i to use on my cattle?

SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:00

wilber said:
Vaccination does not cure an animal that has already contracted the disease

Remove sick badgers by culling and badgers move in from other areas.

Kill them all maybe?

SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:01

wilber said:
And what legal vaccine am i to use on my cattle?

You have cattle?

cheesyboy · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:01

SkodaMart said:
There are better ways of controlling bovine TB such as the vaccination of cattle and badgers.

There are lengthy procedures they would need to go through to get TB vaccines approved for use in meat animals. Due to the human consumption side. I think the belief is that that path is somewhat blocked by the bureaucracy of the process.

Badger deaths are looking like becoming something of a collateral damage to the dairy and beef industry. A price to pay for the meat we consume.

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:02

SkodaMart said:
Remove sick badgers by culling and badgers move in from other areas.

Kill them all maybe?

Your dodging points and questions again.

No one wants to eradicate badgers entirely no matter how much AR nut job material you read on the internet. vaccination and population control are key to control of the disease

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:04

SkodaMart said:
You have cattle?

Yes.

SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:04

It would be far cheaper to develop and approve a vaccine than it would be to continue with the destruction of both cattle and badgers.

Culling is a short sighted solution that does not address the full problem.

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:06

SkodaMart said:
It would be far cheaper to develop and approve a vaccine than it would be to continue with the destruction of both cattle and badgers.

Culling is a short sighted solution that does not address the full problem.

No it would not be cheaper. vaccination is costing the welsh assembly well over £3k PER BADGER

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:07

Why do countries that cull TB infected creatures see a HUGE reduction in reactors?

SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:08

wilber said:
No it would not be cheaper. vaccination is costing the welsh assembly well over £3k PER BADGER

What has the culling program cost? Not to mention the destruction of cattle?

I've noticed that Bovine TB wasn't really a problem until after the foot and mouth episode, what changed?

Maybe the UK cattle that were slaughtered as a result of that terrible disease were more resistant to TB?

wilber · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:11

SkodaMart said:
What has the culling program cost? Not to mention the destruction of cattle?

I've noticed that Bovine TB wasn't really a problem until after the foot and mouth episode, what changed?

Maybe the UK cattle that were slaughtered as a result of that terrible disease were more resistant to TB?

Or maybe your pulling assumptions out of thin air.

The badger population has seen an explosion in numbers in the last 10-15 years in some parts of the country.

An increasing badger population and an increasing TB infection rate yet you fail to see the link. Oh your still dodging questions too.

SkodaMart · 12 Sep 2014 at 23:14

wilber said:
Or maybe your pulling assumptions out of thin air.

The badger population has seen an explosion in numbers in the last 10-15 years in some parts of the country.

An increasing badger population and an increasing TB infection rate yet you fail to see the link. Oh your still dodging questions too.

Quote: during the Welsh Badger Vaccination Project in 2012, out of 1200 badgers captured and vaccinated in a TB hotspot area, none showed any signs of having the disease. - See more at: http://www.careforthewild.com/badger/badger-cull-facts/#sthash.5kn92DL3.dpuf