Ebola scaremongering?

OldCoals said:
http://news.sky.com/story/1350325/british-man-dies-from-ebola-reports

Breaking news, British man suspected of dying from Ebola in Macedonia. :eek:
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Called BS on this when I saw it last night and now the Macedonian government are back tracking some what. As mentioned - symptoms so general that they could be mistaken for something else. It does go to show the panic that is ripping through Europe at the moment. The case is yet to be verified, but I think that it will not be as he would have had to have caught it here in the UK and we have not seen any cases within the populace.

I see that many of the tabloids ignored the need to wait for verification of this case with their headlines and hit the panic button straight away by declaring with almost certainty that he had died of it and therefore it is definitely in the UK. FFS. But then the Daily Express declared that it was in the UK in early August with as much certainty when a doctor in Wales said she had headaches after returning from duty in West Africa.

I wonder have these papers ever heard of the story of the boy who cried wolf?
 
From todays Daily Fail website:



Absolutely ******* disgusting reporting playing off the word 'could' in capital letters. How this 'paper' is lawfully allowed to print this garbage is beyond me.



**** me, combining ebola, muslim terrorists and immigration policy in one headline. You would think i was making these images up, but no they are genuine stories pulled from the dailyfail website today. What the actual ****, how is this legal?

Entire staff of the Daily Fail COULD have AIDS! A source close to.... Some people say....
 
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I am at a loss as to the above post from the Mail website. This is free press gone mad, is irresponsible and yes they should be prosecuted for it.

Some good reporting from the BBC. goes to show that there are some communities in Sierra Leone that have not had an Ebola case. Again, if they can do it over there, then realistically we would have little problem here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29507673
 
RaMDOM said:
I wonder have these papers ever heard of the story of the boy who cried wolf?
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They have. But the Daily Mail reported it as terrorist wolves trying to come over and steal jobs, while not working and being on benefits, causing cancer and spreading ebola, all at the same time.
 
RaMDOM said:
I am at a loss as to the above post from the Mail website. This is free press gone mad, is irresponsible and yes they should be prosecuted for it.
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Who's to stop them? Even suing them hardly makes a dent. Didn't you see the clip in Superman IV?
 
Had a call from the nurse at my GP today.
Basically my work travels are about to expand out of EMEA and into Asia-Pac so I'm getting the low down on immunisations needed.
Once we'd covered off things like rabies and TB (I missed out on that years ago) we got chatting about Ebola.
She said she personally feels very concerned and she went onto say if only world governments had acted sooner to contain it and tighten borders.

The fact is, when you look at the exponential growth of those infected and dying since July it's difficult not to be concerned but it's finding that balance between the tosh DM put out there and those who prefer to bury their heads in the sand.

I was on a flight home this morning when I noticed cabin crew collecting used cups and glasses then handing out drinks (inc. mine) before getting a chance to wash their hands.

Easy to turn into a paranoid nutcase - or is it just self preservation kicking in!
 
Domo said:
The fact is, when you look at the exponential growth of those infected and dying since July it's difficult not to be concerned but it's finding that balance between the tosh DM put out there and those who prefer to bury their heads in the sand.
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People keep reading papers/their sites. :/
 
doofer said:
It does seem very strange to me that Western Scientists have been busy researching helping out in the affected areas and it is common knowledge that a contagious disease is best acted up by containment/quarantine with strict contamination controls and yet somehow with all our advanced border controls and tracking technology this virus has been allowed in to the USA, the UK, Spain, Norway, Germany, Macedonia, Czech Republic and possibly Australia... It begs the question, who benefits?

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That is a good question.

The fact is, for pretty much every disastrous situation in the world, The US government, and possibly other western governments, have always been, or have taken advantage and become; the prime beneficiaries of the situation.

When I saw a video of a person suspected of ebola infection being carted through a western hospital in a manner in which a patient with a broken limb would be carted, my paranoia begged the question, "Intentional infection?"

People must acknowledge the 6 metre tall stone monument with the following command inscribed in eight languages, "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature." You must be prepared to form a connection to potential and apparently effectual population control measures.

You must understand the psychological impact of a dumb mind being exposed to cartoon which depict Ebola outbreaks. Notice how in that Simpsons episode, the book is in prime focus. The entire exchange Marge is talking to Bart is completely superseded by the complete filling of the book in the frame. Was showing the close-up of the book supposed to be part of a joke? absolutely not. Was showing a close up of the book related to the verbal dialogue between Marge and Bart? absolutely not. Was the close-up of the book supposed to embed an image of an African ebola outbreak into the viewer's subconscious so that if/when in future the outbreak is doctored, the people with this embedded image will not be as shocked or distressed? possibly and potentially.

People must realise that paranoia is an extremely useful human trait. It has the power to both save and enslave you. All I'm saying is that you should use your ability to analyse and understand paranoia.
 
asim18 said:
Was the close-up of the book supposed to embed an image of an African ebola outbreak into the viewer's subconscious so that if/when in future the outbreak is doctored, the people with this embedded image will not be as shocked or distressed? possibly and potentially.
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Or simply not.
 
Domo said:
Or simply not.
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Well if that's as far as your paranoia takes you. So be it.

Or you can listen to a US government official referring to the Ebola outbreak as an "Ebola attack". From this you can assume that either;

A. She's been using that term behind closed doors.
B. She is genuinely a retard who cant speak.
C. She is extremely clever and using a seemingly accidental slip of her tongue to partially expose a secret. A secret which could have her put in military prison or cause her to flee to Russia.

B. Is down right impossible seeing as it's her job being to speak in public and all, therefore A & C become possible.


I would like to stress that my primary motive is not to conspire. I'm merely providing some insight into certain occurrences and the potentiality of certain things.
 
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Orionaut said:
Of course those that will, will dismiss this as a DM link, But....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cedonia-UK-victim-virus-killed-thousands.html

It does raise the possibility that the victims contracted the disease from within the UK! :eek:

Shutting the boarders may well not stop the progress of the disease (Pandemics managed to spread globally perfectly well before the age of mass transit) but "Quarantine" does slow the rate of spread and give everybody more time to cope with the consequences!
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Confirmed not Ebola.
 
asim18 said:
Well if that's as far as your paranoia takes you. So be it.

Or you can listen to a US government official referring to the Ebola outbreak as an "Ebola attack". From this you can assume that either;

A. She's been using that term behind closed doors.
B. She is genuinely a retard who cant speak.
C. She is extremely clever and using a seemingly accidental slip of her tongue to partially expose a secret. A secret which could have her put in military prison or cause her to flee to Russia.

B. Is down right impossible seeing as it's her job being to speak in public and all, therefore A & C become possible.
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I'm not so sure, B is a perfectly reasonable scenario :D. This is from the country who gave us Bush.


I'm sure there are more efficient ways to curb population than a virus(war for example). If it was indeed a "weapon" do you not think it would be more efficient than it is? Now I'm far from an expert (or even a layman) but a engineered virus would be detected by another country working on a cure.
 
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Mynight said:
I'm not so sure, B is a perfectly reasonable scenario :D. This is from the country who gave us Bush.


I'm sure there are more efficient ways to curb population than a virus(war for example). If it was indeed a "weapon" do you not think it would be more efficient than it is? Now I'm far from an expert (or even a layman) but a engineered virus would be detected by another country working on a cure.
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You wouldn't want a weaponised virus to be too efficient - you want to be able to control it while still able to maintain the illusion of a continuous pandemic.
 
Rroff said:
You wouldn't want a weaponised virus to be too efficient - you want to be able to control it while still able to maintain the illusion of a continuous pandemic.
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True.

I guess a virus with a low transition value would be perfect for control :confused:. Dammit maybe I'm wrong and they are out to get them. KKK joins illuminati :eek:.
 
Mynight said:
I'm not so sure, B is a perfectly reasonable scenario :D. This is from the country who gave us Bush.


I'm sure there are more efficient ways to curb population than a virus(war for example). If it was indeed a "weapon" do you not think it would be more efficient than it is? Now I'm far from an expert (or even a layman) but a engineered virus would be detected by another country working on a cure.
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I'm not saying ebola itself is engineered. What's worrying is how it's being used.

I mean you have a disease in an african country; nothing remarkable there I'm sure everyone agrees. Now you really need to wonder why they would need to send in western medics into such a risky area? And to do what exactly? Hand out medicine? Hang around staring at some guy puking blood who is inevitably going to die? Walk around with a sheet of plastic draped over their head with some erratically applied duct tape so it looks like you and they are protected?


Heck the reverse psychology propoganda has already materialised. Ebola in US and UK?? Yep it was an ISIS terrorist. Not that suicidal medic who went to a high risk area to have a fanny about and then flew straight back to a heavily populated American hospital. Just that news story alone should be enough to tell you that ebola is being used.
 
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I don't like the news of the expectation of a "limited" outbreak in the UK, if they are prepping the public conscious for that possibility then they are expecting worse (not to say dramatically worse) as more than just a speculated possibility.
 
The horrendous thing about this is really that it might only be spreading exactly because we've been trying to treat it, without being able to do so effectively. If it had been left to its own devices it would most likely kill the population exposed to it before it had a chance to spread very far as has been the case in past outbreaks of the virus.
 
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