Russian Grand Prix 2014, Sochi - Race 16/19

Flibster · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:05

el_dazza said:
Didn't they halt the radio ban until next year?

No, they just keep changing whats allowed and what isn't.

Vertigo · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:05

el_dazza said:
I really hope Hamilton takes a 30 point lead into the last race only to DNF and Rosberg to win. This place would erupt.

So you want Rosberg to win by virtue of reliability AND double-points? :rolleyes:

No genuine F1 fan would ever want that, regardless of the drivers involved. Go away.

el_dazza · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:05

Flibster said:
No, they just keep changing whats allowed and what isn't.

Clear as mud as ever then

novaenough · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:05

Vertigo1 said:
Brundle's right - the radio messages to Vettel were specifically about his fuel consumption which should be banned now surely?

I did wonder about it when I heard the message.
Really don't understand how you can't talk to the divers but are allowed to send them beeps telling them how to drive. That should be the kind of thing that's banned.

Rybo89 · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:05

Flibster said:
Plan B for Rosberg. 2 stop?

Putting in those times will start munching the tyres a bit.

I dont know why they are not pitting him now, he can clearly catch back up and get 2nd....

Jono8 · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:06

Gaining on Hammy. But Hammy is probably just cruising to the end now.

Glaucus · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:06

Rybo89 said:
I dont know why they are not pitting him now, he can clearly catch back up and get 2nd....

Why pit? He's doing fastest laps. Pit when it starts falling and then new tyres can be pushed till the end.

Stumble Bum · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

Vertigo1 said:
So you want Rosberg to win by virtue of reliability AND double-points?

No genuine F1 fan would ever want that, regardless of the drivers involved. Go away.

He's a Hamilton hater, it's the only posts he makes.

Skeeter · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

Seems it would be in the nice ambiguous area of "driving technique in general"

Messages not permitted (by radio or pit board)

- Driving lines on the circuit.
- Contact with kerbs.
- Car set up parameters for specific corners.
- Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver.
- Speeds in corners compared to another driver.
- Gear selection compared with another driver.
- Gear selection in general.
- Braking points.
- Rate of braking compared to another driver.
- Rate of braking or application of brakes in general.
- Car stability under braking.
- Throttle application compared to another driver.
- Throttle application in general.
- Use of DRS compared with another driver.
- Use of any overtake button.
- Driving technique in general.

Edit: They have removed the ban on fuel related things as the drivers have no fuel gauge, so have no way over having the information required to manage their own fuel usage. So seems beeps are fine.

englishpremier · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

The treatment of Kobyashi by the Caterham team this season has been shocking.

Flibster · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

el_dazza said:
Clear as mud as ever then

Pretty much. The rules are the rules, unless we say they aren't, or we make up new rules and don't tell anyone...

Rybo89 said:
I dont know why they are not pitting him now, he can clearly catch back up and get 2nd....

Bolt on his best set of soft tyres and turn everything up to eleven.

el_dazza · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

Vertigo1 said:
So you want Rosberg to win by virtue of reliability AND double-points?

No genuine F1 fan would ever want that, regardless of the drivers involved. Go away.

No.

It won't happen anyway, Hamilton (as much as I hate to say it) is just driving superbly while Rosberg is bottling every time he gets close to him. It's done and dusted.

Dr Jack · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

Vertigo1 said:
Brundle's right - the radio messages to Vettel were specifically about his fuel consumption which should be banned now surely?

No. Under the current rules they can tell him there is a fuel problem but can't tell him how to deal with it.

Rybo89 · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

Glaucus said:
Why pit? He's doing fastest laps. Pit when it starts falling and then new tyres can be pushed till the end.

because he could do it now and push till the end? Softs look like they will last 20 laps on here.

UTmaniac · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:07

Rosberg in this lap for second pit?

mmj_uk · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:08

novaenough said:
I did wonder about it when I heard the message.
Really don't understand how you can't talk to the divers but are allowed to send them beeps telling them how to drive. That should be the kind of thing that's banned.

Yeah they should get rid of the driver aids like that, if a driver can't work out when to shift he shouldn't be in F1 tbh.

Jono8 · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:08

el_dazza said:
No.

It won't happen anyway, Hamilton (as much as I hate to say it) is just driving superbly while Rosberg is bottling every time he gets close to him. It's done and dusted.

It most definitely isn't. If Hamilton's car breaks in Brazil, Rosberg will win and will win the championship....having to likely only have half the amount of wins Lewis will have.

The double point last race is so stupid. If that situation does happen that 50 points is the equivalent of 7 race wins for Lewis ( where Rosberg has come second). It is farcical.

Dr Jack · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:09

Fastest lap from Rosberg. Surely he can't be trying to nurse those tyres to the end anymore.

Glaucus · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:09

mmj_uk said:
Yeah they should get rid of the driver aids like that, if a driver can't work out when to shift he shouldn't be in F1 tbh.

Oh god please tell me you didn't just say that.
How exactly is a driver meant to know when to shift for fuel reasons?

Purdy · 12 Oct 2014 at 13:10

Jono8 said:
It most definitely isn't. If Hamilton's car breaks in Brazil, Rosberg will win and will win the championship....having to likely only have half the amount of wins Lewis will have.

Think he's trying to jinx it, anyone with half a brain realises it isn't over or close to it