Dying scientist claims Aliens do exist!!

It's funny that people believe in god but find it hard to believe in aliens lol! They might not have reached the earth yet but sure as heck there are "others" out there.
 
grudas said:
It's funny that people believe in god but find it hard to believe in aliens lol! They might not have reached the earth yet but sure as heck there are "others" out there.
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I don't think anybody with half a brain is debating this part :p

The fact that we exist and have come so far in 100 years to the point of being able to analyse the stuff carried on comets that then can seed a planet is proof in itself that life can and must exist elsewhere.
 
mrk said:
I don't think anybody with half a brain is debating this part :p

The fact that we exist and have come so far in 100 years to the point of being able to analyse the stuff carried on comets that then can seed a planet is proof in itself that life can and must exist elsewhere.
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To go from some odd few atoms floating about to any kind of semi advanced life form takes a lot longer and requires relatively specific circumstances. It might be in the overall story we aren't the only civilisation to exist but the chances of civilisations existing at the same time let alone make contact with each other are tiny and based on what we do know of the universe there hasn't been overly long for many to have existed before us.
 
IMO despite how vast and varied the universe is the conditions for anything other than very primitive life forms is so unique that there just haven't been enough iterations yet for more than a small handful of civilisations to have existed or to currently exist.

Given that potentially life could have started emerging ~15 million years after the big bang (most of it would have been very primitive and time limited by the decay of background radiation that allowed for it to exist in the first place) its feasible that atleast 1 civilisation could have developed (survived due to being in the habitable zone of their start) and lived and died with their star if they didn't advance enough to escape their local system before we came along.
 
Rroff said:
IMO despite how vast and varied the universe is the conditions for anything other than very primitive life forms is so unique that there just haven't been enough iterations yet for more than a small handful of civilisations to have existed or to currently exist.

Given that potentially life could have started emerging ~15 million years after the big bang (most of it would have been very primitive and time limited by the decay of background radiation that allowed for it to exist in the first place) its feasible that atleast 1 civilisation could have developed (survived due to being in the habitable zone of their start) and lived and died with their star if they didn't advance enough to escape their local system before we came along.
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You're forgetting that life can exist in all extremes. We've only recently discovered micro organisms that eat radiation to survive, for example.

Life as we know it is one thing and naturally we've only been looking for signs of life based on the conditions our own solar system provides us in order to support human life.

For all intents and purposes there could be life out there in the cosmos that doesn't need a physical body but purely exists as an entity crawling the Universe.

We need to stop thinking along the lines of "well if Humans could not have existed in that time/condition then nothing could have".

That's even before we begin to explore the ever increasing possibility of multiple Universes, wormholes and the like.
 
I find it quite bizarre that aliens travel the cosmos to come here and are perfectly happy for the US government to steal their technology and carryout experiments on them. If that was me, I would have vapourised the planet already.
 
mrk said:
You're forgetting that life can exist in all extremes. We've only recently discovered micro organisms that eat radiation to survive, for example.

Life as we know it is one thing and naturally we've only been looking for signs of life based on the conditions our own solar system provides us in order to support human life.

For all intents and purposes there could be life out there in the cosmos that doesn't need a physical body but purely exists as an entity crawling the Universe.

We need to stop thinking along the lines of "well if Humans could not have existed in that time/condition then nothing could have".

That's even before we begin to explore the ever increasing possibility of multiple Universes, wormholes and the like.
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The steps required to progress from very primitive forms to a sentient civilisation or entity are by most sets of circumstances extremely long chains of events (I'm aware of concepts like Boltzmann brains etc.).

Its quite a messed up idea that everything we know about this universe including ourselves could potentially be nothing more than the construct of one of those brains existing in an entirely different dimension/universe heh.
 
mrk said:
You're forgetting that life can exist in all extremes. We've only recently discovered micro organisms that eat radiation to survive, for example.

Life as we know it is one thing and naturally we've only been looking for signs of life based on the conditions our own solar system provides us in order to support human life.

For all intents and purposes there could be life out there in the cosmos that doesn't need a physical body but purely exists as an entity crawling the Universe.

We need to stop thinking along the lines of "well if Humans could not have existed in that time/condition then nothing could have".

That's even before we begin to explore the ever increasing possibility of multiple Universes, wormholes and the like.
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I have to agree. It annoys me how they all think that life is based on our own. This quote comes to mind, "It's life Jim, but not as we know it".
 
Rroff said:
IMO despite how vast and varied the universe is the conditions for anything other than very primitive life forms is so unique that there just haven't been enough iterations yet for more than a small handful of civilisations to have existed or to currently exist.

Given that potentially life could have started emerging ~15 million years after the big bang (most of it would have been very primitive and time limited by the decay of background radiation that allowed for it to exist in the first place) its feasible that atleast 1 civilisation could have developed (survived due to being in the habitable zone of their start) and lived and died with their star if they didn't advance enough to escape their local system before we came along.
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well, 15m years is a bit soon - more like 200-400m years before the first stars form and quite a bit longer before higher elements were made and then formed into planets. And as there are roughly 70000000000000000000000 stars in the known universe its reasonable to assume a significantly larger number of planets - the circumstances required for life to form over the lifetime of the universe have probably happened quite a few times.
i doubt they have come here or ever will though - space is quite big.
 
Come on guys. Have none of you seen those documentaries about the Men in Black I think they made 3 of them. dem alienz dey already ere cus
 
Well that's 30 something minutes of my life wasted I'll never get back...

It's kind of interesting but I'd love to see how those pictures hold up under scrutiny from experts, don't get me wrong I do believe there is extra terrestrial life but this just smacks of fantasy to me.
 
aardvark said:
well, 15m years is a bit soon - more like 200-400m years before the first stars form and quite a bit longer before higher elements were made and then formed into planets. And as there are roughly 70000000000000000000000 stars in the known universe its reasonable to assume a significantly larger number of planets - the circumstances required for life to form over the lifetime of the universe have probably happened quite a few times.
i doubt they have come here or ever will though - space is quite big.
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One of the theories is that rocky planets would have formed by then and that the heat from the background radiation from the big bang would have enabled them to harbour water and other simple elements enabling pockets of simple life forms potentially to form - but time limited by the evolution of the universe and the decay of that background radiation in some cases though it could have survived to seed life on planets later forming in habitable zones of their stars.
 
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The universe is infinitely large and of incredible age. Yet we all, with our 80 or 90 or so years on earth, fully expect that intelligent life will stumble across us right now as we've only recently been able to push a few humans outside of Earth's mavity. It is probable that there's intelligent life out there, but incredibly improbable that we'll find each other any time soon. I still think Mulder and Scully were on to something though.
 
I do not think we as a species will exist long enough to discover other life. Life exists for such a short period of time it's very unlikely that two forms of life would exist at the same time even If there are other forms of life out there.
 
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