At what point were we ever talking about money?
You don't get power units or fuel for free in the REAL world. As I said no saving what so ever.
Brazilian Grand Prix 2014, São Paulo - Race 18/19
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You don't get power units or fuel for free in the REAL world. As I said no saving what so ever.
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Let's be honest if he leaves Ferrari Alonso can ask for what he wants from McLaren. They need him more than he needs them. If he goes to McLaren he's the one taking the risk, moving to a team on the downward spiral with an unproven engine and potentially the same problems the other manufacturers suffered throughout the winter to come.
It's one hell of a risk for him, but I'm sure his contract will be splattered with performance related clauses. He wouldn't sign for them without some get out clauses - not with a Mercedes seat potentially up for grabs at the end of next season.
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It's technology you'll be getting it in your mid-spec road car in 10 years time - that's why it's here. They didn't just do it to change things for the sake of it.
OK. So they are faster while using 30% less fuel, but cost more? That better?
Its not connected to what I originally said, but if your going to constantly move the goalposts on your own argument rather than back down, I may as well play it your way for a bit.
I am interested to know what point your actually trying to make, though.
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10 years to break the actual qualifying lap record (Ferrari were in the 1:10s in 2004) at a higher cost. Not that impressive.
Hang on, lets be fair here. The FIA have spent a decade trying to slow F1 down. It's not like the rules have been static and all the teams have just built crap cars since 2004.
Edit: I'd also question the cost statement. 2004 was in the middle of the manufacturer era, with $0.5bn budgets flying about. Bespoke tyres, unlimited testing, single use engines. F1 has never got back to that level of spending since.
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They was faster in two races, they save up to 30% fuel in most races but that very small saving(30% fuel)
costs £10 MILLION Per Team Per Year. So no saving what so ever. Simple maths...really.
But they were faster while using 30% less fuel. Yes?
Yes
That isn't what I said.
That's just one example...
Check out their Mclaren Sport page on facebook and look at the comments...
This is literally one that I just picked out when refreshing the autosport forum right now as well....
"Posted Today, 11:21
Its looking likely he will go to McLaren.
Its going to be weird, after supporting McLaren for so many years, to start willing them to fail... "
I've read literally hundreds of posts like this past few days... I don't care what you say, Mclaren are alienating themselves from their UK fan base drastically.
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I don't really understand that it sounds like Vettel is getting an insane contract at Ferrari and that Mclaren want to give Alonso silly money. For me Alonso has been getting worse, making more mistakes in the last couple seasons, the "hmm, my wing is almost broken, pit and get a new one or floor it and let the downforce snap it off and end my race.... I'll floor it", his almost Grosjean style crash where he took out Kimi in the Lotus IIRC by just driving into him for no apparent reason and getting very very lucky the cars didn't come back into the track as the pack was coming through, and things like leaving a massive door open for Riccy in turn 1 last weekend. I don't think he's near his best and you want to give him insane money? Vettel is being utterly shown up by his team mate.... in under half a season anyone with a brain realised RBR won those titles, Webber is **** and Vettel is just less **** than Webber.... so Ferrari want to make him epically paid.
Hamilton is about to win the title after thrashing the pants off his team mate, almost certainly the best driver in F1 now, in the best team, most likely to win the title in the next couple of years.... Merc want to give him a pay cut. It's a very odd situation.
Hamilton is about to win the title after thrashing the pants off his team mate, almost certainly the best driver in F1 now, in the best team, most likely to win the title in the next couple of years.... Merc want to give him a pay cut. It's a very odd situation.
You're digressing a bit, I just stated that they'd lose a lot of UK fans, which they will. I didn't say whether they cared or not.
"Lewis Hamilton says he will try to win Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix despite starting second and the fact he has a substantial lead in the championship."
He's changed his tune, on Friday he said he had matured and learnt from 2007 when he said he only had to finish 5th or something but went for the win and it backfired.
Gonna be an interesting race, I reckon he'll try and land the first blow at T1. If it's raining that could be epic.
He's changed his tune, on Friday he said he had matured and learnt from 2007 when he said he only had to finish 5th or something but went for the win and it backfired.
Gonna be an interesting race, I reckon he'll try and land the first blow at T1. If it's raining that could be epic.