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16nm GM200 Titan II being tested..

Hold on a Minute, at no point in any of those responses to questions did Nvidia say GM200 was going to be 16nm or even 20nm, WFFC under lined "I’m excited about our next generation GPU"

How is that proof of 16nm or even 20nm?

I think this is more likely to be the 980TI (GM210). The 980 (GM204) is 400mm, GK110 (780/TI/Titan) is 550mm, Nvidia have 150mm in reserve to make up the 980TI on 28nm.
 
humbug said:
Hold on a Minute, at no point in any of those responses to questions did Nvidia say GM200 was going to be 16nm or even 20nm, WFFC under lined "I’m excited about our next generation GPU"

How is that proof of 16nm or even 20nm?

I think this is more likely to be the 980TI (GM210). The 980 (GM204) is 400mm, GK110 (780/TI/Titan) is 550mm, Nvidia have 150mm in reserve to make up the 980TI on 28nm.
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I don't think they would call it the 980 Ti seeing as it's based off a completely different chip, Just my guess.
 
humbug said:
Hold on a Minute, at no point in any of those responses to questions did Nvidia say GM200 was going to be 16nm or even 20nm, WFFC under lined "I’m excited about our next generation GPU"

How is that proof of 16nm or even 20nm?

I think this is more likely to be the 980TI (GM210). The 980 (GM204) is 400mm, GK110 (780/TI/Titan) is 550mm, Nvidia have 150mm in reserve to make up the 980TI on 28nm.
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Pretty sure there was a leaked document showing Apple and Nvidia using TSMC for 16NM chips with a release date of late 2014 early 2015 ?

Samsung are working on 14NM as well if I remember.
 
Dicehunter said:
I don't think they would call it the 980 Ti seeing as it's based off a completely different chip, Just my guess.
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Yeah more likely 1080 Ti or something like that if you look at kepler:

GK104 GK110
680 780 Ti


Obviously there was the 770 but that was just a rebrand of the 680 gk104 for the most part.
 
Dicehunter said:
I don't think they would call it the 980 Ti seeing as it's based off a completely different chip, Just my guess.
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If the titan version shows up first this is the best value card to go for.

Like the original Titan which is still getting a lot of use for 4K the new Titan will be heavy on things like VRAM which will give it longevity. A Ti version will show up later that will be a lot cheaper but it will also have a shorter working life.
 
Dicehunter said:
I don't think they would call it the 980 Ti seeing as it's based off a completely different chip, Just my guess.
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MOOGLEYS said:
Pretty sure there was a leaked document showing Apple and Nvidia using TSMC for 16NM chips with a release date of late 2014 early 2015 ?

Samsung are working on 14NM as well if I remember.
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28nm has outlived its welcome, i hope 20/16nm does appear early next year.
 
Kaapstad said:
If the titan version shows up first this is the best value card to go for.

Like the original Titan which is still getting a lot of use for 4K the new Titan will be heavy on things like VRAM which will give it longevity. A Ti version will show up later that will be a lot cheaper but it will also have a shorter working life.
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Longevity yes, Value? hell no! :D
 
Tonester0011 said:
Don't you get bored of writing walls of text?
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I do love the generation of people that think anything over 140 letters is a wall of text. The response to posts using more than a few words does often identify people who really aren't worth talking to.

Care to discuss any point I made at all, if not, honestly, why are you even here? Are you so bored in life that you go on a DISCUSSION FORUM to get upset and people trying to discuss things?


For the record I was responding to someone who said that it was sure as hell not a 16nm product.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/..._Regarding_16nm_FinFET_and_20nm_Progress.html

Summed up, October 2013 TSMC has taped out multiple 20 and 16nm chips.

http://techreport.com/news/26078/arm-and-tsmc-tape-out-test-chip-on-16-nm-finfet-process

AMD/ARM tape out complex test chips late 2013. 16nm products were taping out as long as a year ago, it's entirely possible for Nvidia to have early 16nm chip samples. it isn't an indication of TSMC being ready to ship in volume or as I said, that the chip is actually capable of being produced in volume, it may not work, it may have bugs or it may have yield issues which could all necessitate a respin.

Someone said it couldn't be 16nm, I pointed out it could be, discussion... on a discussion forum. I also added reasons and explanations of why a chip turning up in August doesn't mean it's automatically ready to ship as a final product. Such a chip shipment would have happened for the A1 silicon of the 480gtx, 4-5 months before they got the respun version of it back as A2/B1 silicon. A chip existing does not mean it's certain to be a product.
 
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Tonester0011 said:
Guess that's a yes, far fewer words this time.



Edit: Bloody ninja, knew it.
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They're good posts, not sure what your prob is tbh.

Kaapstad said:
Value too

The Titans are still the best option for 4K and this won't change with the launch of either 8gb 980s or 290Xs as the Titans are smoother than both of the other options 4 up.
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I'm still sticking to my prediction of £1200... :D
 
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Kaapstad said:
Value too

The Titans are still the best option for 4K and this won't change with the launch of either 8gb 980s or 290Xs as the Titans are smoother than both of the other options 4 up.
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Best option I can agree with, value for money, no. The Value option is to wait for a mainstream card :cool:
 
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