"Overtaking" on a roundabout.

Road rage is all around. The other week i had a guy get annoyed because i happened to overtake a slow lorry in front of me before him (dual carriageway).

He was so annoyed he overtook me, slammed his brakes on and got out of the car towards me! Fing and blinding as he approached!

I got out and he then went back to his car and produced a hammer! Didnt make me budge though. Told him to bring it on. He said a few words and got back in his car and disappeared. Some nutters about for sure.
 
koolpc said:
I got out and he then went back to his car and produced a hammer! Didnt make me budge though. Told him to bring it on. He said a few words and got back in his car and disappeared. Some nutters about for sure.
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You're braver than me. If a guy had a hammer and was coming towards me I would be foot-down, no matter what was in the way. Not worth risking!
 
PMKeates said:
You're braver than me. If a guy had a hammer and was coming towards me I would be foot-down, no matter what was in the way. Not worth risking!
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Thing is, i was already out of my car as he was gunning for me! Soon as i stepped out he went back to car and got the hammer! I am a skinny git too after losing 3 stone! He reminded me of that fact too! lol :D
 
TripleT said:
OP, go on a defensive driving course and you'll see the error of your ways.
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What did I do wrong? That's why I posted this? As I see it, I was in the correct lane, didn't undertake and someone almost drove into the side of me because they clearly didn't look where they intended to drive.

At no point do I see I did something wrong, that's why I don't unserstand the rubbish I got from two different people.

I'm not going to drive everywhere slow in case someone crashes into me as that would be ******* stupid.
 
Guarantee you were going some rate, possibly speeding past the Ka.... and you're then upset that someone gets annoyed with you?

Almost always going to be best to stay in right hand lane if going "round" a roundabout, irrespective of what you "can" actually do.
 
Whilst not 'in the wrong', sensible defensive driving would encourage you to not be putting yourself just alongside another car in a situation like a roundabout where people are especially liable to be pointlessly lane swapping, panicking to quickly take an exit etc.

This doesn't necessarily mean driving slowly, but being more aware of where you are positioning yourself, the situations you are in and recognising the potential stupidity of others.

The rubbish you got off two other people is just the general incompetence of other road users and everyone's eternal belief that they are always right.
 
Some daft **** carved me up on the exit of a roundabout the other day, his driving was so crap after he cut in front of me the back end of his jag went all over the place, was hoping he was going to lose it all together, then I would have had a proper chuckle. Guy probably thinks I was in the wrong, they always do.
 
Yes he shouldn't have cut across you, but you should be anticipating that could happen if you start passing someone up the inside.

So don't put yourself in that position basically.
 
TripleT said:
Yes he shouldn't have cut across you, but you should be anticipating that could happen if you start passing someone up the inside.

So don't put yourself in that position basically.
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I was 2/3 of the way past him when he started moving over. The front left of his car almost hit the fuel cap area on my car, I was going maybe 1/2 MPH faster than him after leaving the roundabout. I only floored it and sped up as he was going to hit me and slowing down would have meant he hit the drivers door and not the back end.

So what you are all saying is 1) I was in the wrong because I didn't know someone was going to try and drive into the back half of my car, 2) I was in the wrong because I was in the correct lane, 3) I was in the wrong because I drove side by side with another car on a roundabout?

I'll remember this next time and not enter the roundabout until it's completely clear, green light or not.

Remember, it wasn't on the roundabout he changed lane, it was after, on a dual carriageway.
 
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I'm not saying you're in the wrong, just that it was probably avoidable.

Guy comes off the roundabout and then moves over to the left hand lane without looking as he's not expecting someone to be there. Yes it's retardard but predictable.
 
TripleT said:
I'm not saying you're in the wrong, just that it was probably avoidable.

Guy comes off the roundabout and then moves over to the left hand lane without looking as he's not expecting someone to be there. Yes it's retardard but predictable.
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But I was passed him, he could have seen me if he looked at all.

Not sure how people can say I could have avoided it? I could have avoided it by not driving at all but what good does that do me? If I'd have slowed down I'd have been in the way of the 4/5 other cars behind him, and the cars behind me. I'd have also been side by side instead of slightly past him and he would have still hit me?

There are two lanes for a reason and I'm not going to queue behind 7 other cars when the other lane is empty?
 
Antony101 said:
I'll remember this next time and not enter the roundabout until it's completely clear, green light or not.
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You could be a little less defensive in your attitude on here and try and take in the principle of defensive driving and see how it could have provided you a benefit in this situation, thus potentially actually learning something that could prove useful to you in the future.

Or just stick with the sarcy comments and keep your fingers crossed for next time.
 
Kenai said:
You could be a little less defensive in your attitude on here and try and take in the principle of defensive driving and see how it could have provided you a benefit in this situation, thus potentially actually learning something that could prove useful to you in the future.

Or just stick with the sarcy comments and keep your fingers crossed for next time.
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How could I have though? He attempted to move into my lane on a dual carriageway and almost hit me? There was nothing, other than speeding up that could have helped? There were loads more cars behind him that I'd have got in the way of?

People are telling me I shouldn't have been going so fast? He shouldn't have gone into the right lane if he had no intention of going fast, the roundabout is VERY well sign posted. I'm asking people to tell me what I did wrong, which so far has been "Nothing but you totally should have known what the other guy was going to do before he did it".

My options, 1) Let all other 6/7 cars drive off before entering the roundabout, 2) Join in behind the other 6/7 cars in the right lane and get stuck at the second set of lights and block the roundabout. These are my options based around feedback from here, neither are viable or "defensive" they are just stupid.

I'd also like to add that my car is only a 1.6 Diesel, it is not a fast car, I was not driving like a lunatic. I WASN'T behind him, noticed he indicated and floored it. I was 3/4 of the way past him, he indicated, clearly didn't bother checking, then proceeded to move over. I then responded by beeping and flooring it to get out of the way and let him in. As I said it's a 1.6 Diesel, flooring it doesn't do much, but more than an old Ford Ka. If I'd have slowed down I'd still have been in his way.
 
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Exiting a roundabout parallel with another car is just asking to be side swiped frankly, I see it happen in front of me loads. Given you originally called the thread overtaking, the implication is that you came from behind him on the left, again this is not especially clever as many people will not expect this and will move expecting a clear road.

If you're not alongside another car, it can't (almost) hit you. Minimise your exposure to potential risk is all people are saying, not that you ought to be psychic.

If you genuinely honestly believe there is absolutely nothing you could or would do differently that could have reduced the chance of being involved in a near miss or incident, then that's fine but in my experience, there is almost always something either party could have done that would have helped them out, even if they were 'in the right'.
 
Kenai said:
Exiting a roundabout parallel with another car is just asking to be side swiped frankly, I see it happen in front of me loads. Given you originally called the thread overtaking, the implication is that you came from behind him on the left, again this is not especially clever as many people will not expect this and will move expecting a clear road.

If you're not alongside another car, it can't (almost) hit you. Minimise your exposure to potential risk is all people are saying, not that you ought to be psychic.

If you genuinely honestly believe there is absolutely nothing you could or would do differently that could have reduced the chance of being involved in a near miss or incident, then that's fine but in my experience, there is almost always something either party could have done that would have helped them out, even if they were 'in the right'.
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There was a line of 6/7 cars, I couldn't not be along side one of them, I've edited my last post to add my options which include: 1) Let all other 6/7 cars drive off before entering the roundabout, 2) Join in behind the other 6/7 cars in the right lane and get stuck at the second set of lights and block the roundabout. Neither is viable, both a stupid.

The thread should have been titled "Undertaking" and I added the "" as it wasn't really what happened, I just couldn't think of a title. Maybe "Almost side swiped by a Ford Ka after exiting a roundabout onto a dual carriageway" would have been better but it's not really forum title material.
 
Absolutely 100% the KA at fault here. It's all good and well saying "Yeah well if you were further back then.." but where does that stop? OP - just never drive a car ever again, then you'll never be hit! Can't get safer than that! Am I doing this right?!
 
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