Parenting should be the hardest thing you've ever done and will do if not then you aren't giving it your all and if you aren't giving it your all then why the hell did you become a parent.
Wheel Chair vs Pushchairs
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Parenting should be the hardest thing you've ever done and will do if not then you aren't giving it your all and if you aren't giving it your all then why the hell did you become a parent.
I don't know about the hardest thing, it is the most important thing you should do.
Cast your eyes back a few years. Bet you faced more screaming from your lad than at Lympstone, bet you did more crawling on the floor with your lad than Lympstone, bet you got more sleep at Lympstone too.
Cast your eyes back a few years. Bet you faced more screaming from your lad than at Lympstone, bet you did more crawling on the floor with your lad than Lympstone, bet you got more sleep at Lympstone too.
Not really. To be honest Parenting has been a pretty great experience for me, it hasn't been difficult...its can be worrying sometimes, especially when they are small and it needs some forethought most of the time. But I don't think it was ever hard in the strictest sense. I asked the wife and she says its only as hard as you make it.
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This and this imo. My parents are healthy, and I got one healthy sister. What happened to me was a spontaneous mutation. No wheelchair myself, but it rendered my DNA enough that my geneticist ruled against me having kids. The genes affected are dominant. Therefore it is a sensitive issue for me as I won't ever get the choice of having kids.
I'm sure that the responses will be completely the opposite on Mumsnet!!
The first time I used public transport after having my eldest 7 years ago I was about 3 weeks post c/section. I got on the bus and it had gone two stops when a wheel chair user wanted to get on. I had two options even though I'd paid my fare and the disabled person was getting on for free; fumble with a 8lb baby, changing bag and buggy to fold it up and put it in the luggage compartment or get off the bus and wait for an hour and miss my appointment. Luckily some old woman saw I was struggling so offered to hold my baby while I did the folding and putting away of the buggy. It was an experience to say the least but I got on that bus knowing the risk that IF someone in a wheelchair needed that space I can either get off or fold up my buggy.
Sometimes life's unfair and you have to do things you don't always want to do.
The spaces are reserved for wheelchair users and it does state on the bus that you will be asked to fold the buggy down if someone in a wheelchair wants to get on.
Sometimes life's unfair and you have to do things you don't always want to do.
The spaces are reserved for wheelchair users and it does state on the bus that you will be asked to fold the buggy down if someone in a wheelchair wants to get on.
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We've had some discussion over this because some of our local twins club have been asked to get off buses. This policy has led to a number of families stopping using public transport because it isn't fit for the purpose of getting from A to B. Except the company will say it isn't policy and use lots of wishy washy words to avoid taking a position while drivers tell you it is policy.
The storage spaces provided do not always safely accommodate a pushchair and you aren't allowed to keep it on the floor (not to mention that if you have a carrycot they are rather large). So the only way you can be on a bus is sometimes to use the wheelchair space, even if there were several of you to trivialise the "hold baby while folding pushchair" problem. Wheelchair gets on, you might have to get off.
Of course, if you get off then you have to pay another fare for the next bus that you get on unless the driver lets you off.
And how do you hold twin babies on a bus, whilst folding a pushchair? How do you sit with twin babies, get up again and rebuild the pushchair?
My view is that being in a wheelchair you should get priority over the space if nobody else needs it. If someone can reasonably move, then they should and deserve to get kicked off if they are being an arse. If they can't reasonably move, then there is no space. Forcing somebody else off the bus is selfish and you should do what anyone else does when there is no space and wait for the next one.
The storage spaces provided do not always safely accommodate a pushchair and you aren't allowed to keep it on the floor (not to mention that if you have a carrycot they are rather large). So the only way you can be on a bus is sometimes to use the wheelchair space, even if there were several of you to trivialise the "hold baby while folding pushchair" problem. Wheelchair gets on, you might have to get off.
Of course, if you get off then you have to pay another fare for the next bus that you get on unless the driver lets you off.
And how do you hold twin babies on a bus, whilst folding a pushchair? How do you sit with twin babies, get up again and rebuild the pushchair?
My view is that being in a wheelchair you should get priority over the space if nobody else needs it. If someone can reasonably move, then they should and deserve to get kicked off if they are being an arse. If they can't reasonably move, then there is no space. Forcing somebody else off the bus is selfish and you should do what anyone else does when there is no space and wait for the next one.
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What happens if you get a disabled child in a pushchair? Pushchair-ception!
This, simply.
Until i became a parent (where is MY free money people keep saying i get, we get nothing, not even family allowance?) i had no idea how difficult the seemingly simple becomes.
The thought of folding a buggy, on a crowded bus, on my own is borderline impossible. Seriously, it is a royal PITA, despite how pathetic it might sound. And this is before one even considers waking the child. Physically it is like doing a rubiks cube with one hand, and my wife just wouldn't be strong enough to do both. Without kids you just wouldn't appreciate it. Even once folded, there is usually bags & paraphenalia resting on the buggy, which when collapsed will also need to be housed.
The spaces should be reclassified to disabled & parent/child spaces.
Unless you were born with a co genitive disease then you also "choose" to be in a wheel chair by getting in an accident, so that logic is flawed.
The real issue here is the bus serive is not regular enough and there are not enough provisions for disabled people and children.
If there was another disabled person in a wheel chair in that spot the guy would be in the same position. In fact, people suffer this problem all the time and find the bus is full with no space to sit or stand. This isn't a unique issue for wheel chair users.
The real issue here is the bus serive is not regular enough and there are not enough provisions for disabled people and children.
If there was another disabled person in a wheel chair in that spot the guy would be in the same position. In fact, people suffer this problem all the time and find the bus is full with no space to sit or stand. This isn't a unique issue for wheel chair users.
If you get kicked off to make space for someone else then you should get a refund/credit ticket, and I certainly wouldn't be getting off the bus until I had one...
I agree with this. Plus I don't think it would really change much.we have a jogging stroller and it certainly takes 2 hands to collapse, and once collapse it takes up a lot of space so I doubt there would be room for the wheel chair in the first place. Then there is safety issue, it is much safer for the baby to be transported while strapped in the stoller than held in your hands.
If I was on a bus and was told I had to collapse the stoller and hold my baby the bus company would certainly be hearing from my lawyer!
There is a general, first come first served. It is unfortunate if a disabled person tries to get on a bus that is full but the people already on the bus have priority, and the same goes for regular people as well. It is a PITA but you can't kick people off the bus who are already on it.
What if you have two kids? It's a right hassle to unfold the pushchair put kids in seats etc etc etc.
I think the person in this case is kicking up a big stink over nothing.
Well, I guess for some people, there's nothing they want more than to cause a load of hassle over something insignificant....
...except maybe to be able to walk
(too far?
)Well, I guess for some people, there's nothing they want more than to cause a load of hassle over something insignificant....
...except maybe to be able to walk
(too far?
or waiting 10 minutes for the next bus or using his disability allowance to book a taxi ?
He had to wait over an hour - the lawyers for the disabled chap agree with you in that they highlighted that a shorter wait would have materially changed the facts of the case such that the outcome would have been different: he would have lost.
As a single mother of three my mother managed to get a bus home from Morrison's with two young children, a baby and a pushchair plus a weeks shopping when she couldn't afford a taxi or had no lift.
Mothers these days are lazy as ****.
Mothers these days are lazy as ****.