Will UKIP win its first seat in parliament tonight?

Tefal · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:15

D.P. said:
Then there is a load of social changes needed. We need to scrap the whole working in the office M-F 9-5 thing and move to a distributed work load that incorporates significant working from home time. have workers work when they are most productive and on schedules that is beneficial to both them and their employer. have people work through a rainy Saturday and take sunny Monday off in exchange - as long as work gets done at the required rate then people shouldn't commuting to offices at the same time but working when and wherever they want. This is the 21st century, not the 19th.

and how does this work for anyone involved in something say time or order sensitive like our entire manufacturing sector?

and who looks after the kids on this rainy Saturday?

i do love how your solution isn't "improve the road system" but instead "make it too expensive for the plebs to use".

platypus · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:18

D.P. said:
Secondly we need to entice companies to set up offices outside London and the SE. The HS2 project is a great way to help this. We can also leverage increased taxation around the SE while give tax breaks away from London.

This is a bigger issue in the UK than immigration as far as I'm concerned.

Freakbro · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:30

Tefal said:
and how does this work for anyone involved in something say time or order sensitive like our entire manufacturing sector?

The obvious answer to that is only where applicable of course..which would still be beneficial to huge swathes of the workforce

and who looks after the kids on this rainy Saturday?

A childminder, the same as they would any other day of the week?

i do love how your solution isn't "improve the road system" but instead "make it too expensive for the plebs to use".

Heh, yea but maybe a change in mindset is needed, but this would only be facilitated with a useful and functioning public transport service....which is fine in cities but non-existant in rural areas.

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:32

Freakbro said:
A childminder, the same as they would any other day of the week?

Who pays for the childminder?

Freakbro · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:33

mollymoo said:
Who pays for the childminder?

The person going to work :confused:

from like, you know, their wages....

platypus · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:34

New age facist.

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:36

Freakbro said:
The person going to work from like, you know, their wages....

But I don't pay for childcare as it stands, I manage to work around school. Your idea would mean me having a reduced wage.

Freakbro · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:42

mollymoo said:
But I don't pay for childcare as it stands, I manage to work around school. Your idea would mean me having a reduced wage.

Then don't take up the option of flexible working hours and environment as it doesn't suit you....it's not mandatory you know

But if you do feel that having a flexible working environment is something that would enhance your work/life balance, the option is there, and sure it might cost you some money, but that's your choice and responsibility.

Tefal · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:43

Freakbro said:
A childminder, the same as they would any other day of the week?

Thought most people just used schools.

Freakbro · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:45

Tefal said:
Thought most people just used schools.

Wonder what they do for the first 5 years then...and after that the times between 7.30 - 9 and 3 - 5.30...

platypus · 10 Dec 2014 at 07:56

Freakbro said:
Then don't take up the option of flexible working hours and environment as it doesn't suit you....it's not mandatory you know

But if you do feel that having a flexible working environment is something that would enhance your work/life balance, the option is there, and sure it might cost you some money, but that's your choice and responsibility.

Or heaven forbid in a truly flexible work environment parents could share the responsibilities (once the natural things that only the mother can do are out of the way) of raising the child and work at different times.

Tefal · 10 Dec 2014 at 08:32

platypus said:
Or heaven forbid in a truly flexible work environment parents could share the responsibilities (once the natural things that only the mother can do are out of the way) of raising the child and work at different times.

and never see each other for most of every day? :confused:

platypus · 10 Dec 2014 at 08:37

If money is too tight to afford childcare why not? It's also good for both parents to raise the child independantly at times*.

*I say this like I'm an expert on child rearing.

robgmun · 10 Dec 2014 at 09:53

Mr Jack said:
Tosh and piffle. This caricature has no basis in fact. There is no such simple way to tell if someone is lying or not.

It's part of a whole science behind body language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinesics

Caged said:
You seem quite obsessed with her being planted by Labour, instead of the far more likely explanation that she's just a terrible politician.

Maybe your right...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...-a-sexual-predator-Ukip-men-are-no-worse.html

Mr Jack · 10 Dec 2014 at 12:02

robgmun said:
It's part of a whole science behind body language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinesics

That's not a science. Please don't use the word 'science' for things that aren't scientific in nature. Body language can, of course, be interpreted to give clues to people's behaviour but it is not a reliable indicator. People can act strangely for a host of reasons.

In fact, people are remarkably poor at correctly spotting liars and, what's more, people who think they are good at spotting liars are, in fact, worse than the general population at spotting liars.

ubersonic · 10 Dec 2014 at 13:00

Mr Jack said:
In fact, people are remarkably poor at correctly spotting liars and, what's more, people who think they are good at spotting liars are, in fact, worse than the general population at spotting liars.

YOU'RE LYING!!!

ubersonic · 10 Dec 2014 at 13:03

D.P. said:
Secondly we need to entice companies to set up offices outside London and the SE. The HS2 project is a great way to help this.

I do find it comical that Farage plans to scrap HS2 despite having stood on numerous soap boxes and big'ed up the Victorian railway innovation and how great it was. Yet he seems to have no desire to bring our railways into the 20th century.

TwsT · 10 Dec 2014 at 13:14

Tefal said:
i do love how your solution isn't "improve the road system" but instead "make it too expensive for the plebs to use".

Most of our cities can't cope now and can't be improved without being knocked down which is impossible in say London.

At the moment as it is Traffic is a pain in the arse in some places and that won't change without money, money which will come from taxation either way however a long term solution to the problem isn't better roads it's using less cars At some point we will run out of room for roads and then have to adapt anyway. and ofcourse building up like tokyo that's something we are going to have to start doing. Like it or lump it

Mr Jack · 10 Dec 2014 at 14:12

ubersonic said:
YOU'RE LYING!!!

scorza · 10 Dec 2014 at 14:19

TwsT said:
Most of our cities can't cope now and can't be improved without being knocked down which is impossible in say London.

There have been plenty of road upgrades in London - particularly the east - in the 15 or so years I've been down here. Not to mention if they can do Crossrail they could build more roads, cycle pathways etc, it's just a matter of will. Besides, the real problem is our A road network - can't believe the A1 hasn't been upgraded to motorway standard all the way up to Edinburgh yet.