Two year old shot mother dead

Re the Swiss comparison.

The massive, most glaring difference between American gun ownership and the Swiss model is that in Switzerland you get the gun as part of the national service, and military training.
In the States there is AFAIK zero requirement for anyone to have had any form of even the most basic training before they're able to legally buy a gun, and quite often even if they do have training it might only be a few hours.

Given most armed forces really really don't like people accidentally discharging their weapons and shooting their squad mates (or worse their superior officers), they tend to emphasise the safe handling of firearms.
 
Well maybe they should take a leaf out of Switzerland's book. Training with stricter measures to insure basic firearm safety is in place. It would have probably kept this woman alive.
 
Why are yous so concerned about americas guns? Some guy accidentally shoots a bunch of cousins at a wedding celebration in pakistan and nobody says a thing about guns. Is it just cos americans speak english that you feel like you have moral authority over their culture or what?

As to the accident she got a purpose desinged gun purse for christmas which is designed to conceal it and cover the trigger like a holster. So it sounds like unfamiliarity with the product and complacency around guns that got her killed.
 
Guns don't kill people, people do

No...guns kill people. They fire little steel things which rip your insides out. You ever heard of someone killing using one of those chocolate marshmallow things (the ones with the red and silver wrapper). No, of course you haven't, because marshmallow don't kill people.

Unless you think that two year old actually wanted to kill his mum?

Can I knife kill someone from 200m away (not counting chuck norris throwing it)? Hardly

ok, think of it another way......if there were no guns, people wouldn't be getting shot. Not every gun fired is intended to kill, yet the gun doesn't know that does it. Accidents happen, people are idiots.....ban guns.
 
glen8 said:
Guns don't kill people, people do

No...guns kill people. They fire little steel things which rip your insides out. You ever heard of someone killing using one of those chocolate marshmallow things (the ones with the red and silver wrapper). No, of course you haven't, because marshmallow don't kill people.

Unless you think that two year old actually wanted to kill his mum?

Can I knife kill someone from 200m away (not counting chuck norris throwing it)? Hardly

ok, think of it another way......if there were no guns, people wouldn't be getting shot. Not every gun fired is intended to kill, yet the gun doesn't know that does it. Accidents happen, people are idiots.....ban guns.
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To be fair an accident could have have happened with a knife just as easily. If she had a knife instead of a gun in the handbag the kid could have seriously injured itself. The mum was the cause of this accident, leaving a loaded gun in the reach of a child. :o

With the gun, was it cocked? I can't imagine a 2 year cocking a gun and pulling the trigger. Can two year olds even walk? No idea when it comes to kids.
 
adam98150 said:
With the gun, was it cocked? I can't imagine a 2 year cocking a gun and pulling the trigger. Can two year olds even walk? No idea when it comes to kids.
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Am a little surprised that a two year could even pull the trigger as I would thought that a gun trigger would have been fairly stiff to pull

Plus a two old hand would not fit around the hand grip on a gun...
 
adam98150 said:
To be fair an accident could have have happened with a knife just as easily. If she had a knife instead of a gun in the handbag the kid could have seriously injured itself. The mum was the cause of this accident, leaving a loaded gun in the reach of a child. :o

With the gun, was it cocked? I can't imagine a 2 year cocking a gun and pulling the trigger. Can two year olds even walk? No idea when it comes to kids.
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I was on a bus once and an old lady got on with a bag full of knives - someone stepped into it and she was stabbed in the leg hitting an artery from the amount of blood - couple of people rushed her off to a clinic that was nearby so no idea if she survived but a bit beside the point.

Problem in the US is any attempt to regulate firearm ownership/use is seen as a potential erosion of their constitutional rights and blocked so you end up with irresponsible firearm ownership, mental health issues not dealt with and people easily getting their hands on them that never should. By and large many of the incidents that have resulted in loss of life could have been avoided as in any other country the person(s) involved would never have been allowed to own firearms and/or had a much harder time acquiring them illegally.

chaparral said:
Am a little surprised that a two year could even pull the trigger as I would thought that a gun trigger would have been fairly stiff to pull

Plus a two old hand would not fit around the hand grip on a gun...
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The ones designed to be concealed often have very sensitive triggers and as mentioned earlier don't need to be cocked/safety disengaged in the same way as usual. Pure madness IMO for a parent to carry unless their life is actually in danger from an active threat.
 
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chaparral said:
Am a little surprised that a two year could even pull the trigger as I would thought that a gun trigger would have been fairly stiff to pull

Plus a two old hand would not fit around the hand grip on a gun...
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Really struggling to figure out how you get shot by a 2 year old TBH. Wonder if she approached the kid from the front whilst the gun was pointing her way? Or did she not realise it had the gun until it was too late? Confused.
 
I watched some news report today state that the two year old would be traumatised because she had shot her mother. Um I feel it is unlikely that the two year old has the remotest clue of what she has done.

But it struck me that the quality of TV journalists is sadly lacking these days. Only the other day I was told by a TV journalist who was pictured in a library that it was filled with books. And there was me thinking it was filled with other stuff.
 
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