Why do you think he was directing that at you?
Far Cry 4 for an 11 year old?
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Why do you think he was directing that at you?
lol, the video of those poor dogs getting exploded up into the air by a grenade launcher
So what's the law regarding games ratings? Say you were working in a games store and a father came up to your till with his 11-year-old son saying something along the lines of "Are you sure this is the one [Far Cry 4] you want?"
It's clearly a statement that the game is for the lad. Do you have the power to refuse the sale to the adult on the grounds he's buying it for someone else or do you have to sell it to him as he's the one buying and is over 18?
It's clearly a statement that the game is for the lad. Do you have the power to refuse the sale to the adult on the grounds he's buying it for someone else or do you have to sell it to him as he's the one buying and is over 18?
No, why?
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yes as you know that the game is being supplied to a minor, and you would also be legally responsible for selling the game. Same with tobacco and alcohol. It is for this reason why if there is a group of people in a store that all go to the till together with a bottle of vodka every member of that group has to be ID'd (unless they are deemed to be over 18/21/25, whatever policy the particular store has for covering its own rear)
As above.
I was in game last year and a mother went to buy CoD for her son, and the guy behind the counter refused to sell it to her because they were talking about if it is what the son wanted, she kicked off but they refused to sell it to her.
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18 rated games are okay for high school kids but not primary school kids IMO. therefore I would wait a couple of years before letting him play 18's.
i bet the majority of guys on here have played 18's when they were at high school, i know i played GTA, manhunt, wu tang; taste the pain, etc.
if he really wants it though you could import the australian version and there is a country in europe with really strict gaming laws, possibly germany or sweden where blood has to be the colour green, etc and they strip parts out of games and change them to comply with those countries laws. i cant remember which countries and what laws they have specifically but i bet those versions would be okay for an 11 year old as most of that stuff will have been removed.
i bet the majority of guys on here have played 18's when they were at high school, i know i played GTA, manhunt, wu tang; taste the pain, etc.
if he really wants it though you could import the australian version and there is a country in europe with really strict gaming laws, possibly germany or sweden where blood has to be the colour green, etc and they strip parts out of games and change them to comply with those countries laws. i cant remember which countries and what laws they have specifically but i bet those versions would be okay for an 11 year old as most of that stuff will have been removed.
Well, he is at high school now. His first year.
Just found out one of his mates has this... and also has GTA V. I certainly wouldn't condone that from what I know of GTA V.
I think some parents just don't know how to say know, or can't be bothered to investigate.
No, you don't have to to refuse the sale. Proxy sale law doesn't apply to games, DVDs, etc. If a parent wants to buy a PEGI 18 game for their 12 year-old that's entirely up to them. If the retailer wants to set its own policy on the issue then that's up to them but there's no requirement to do so.
Yep, for the most part they're clueless, which is quite disappointing. I see young kids at work all the time talking to each other about all the same games I'm playing. If the parent has made an informed, concious decision that their child is mature enough to play the game then fair enough, but I think the view is that games are just 'toys' so there can't be anything wrong with kids playing them regardless of the age rating.
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Personally, I'd let him play it. He'd probably get a great deal of fun out of it, and I've never bought into the idea that exposure to violent media will be detrimental to a child's psychological wellbeing. Quite the opposite, I think restricting a child's access to certain media will only make them more keen to seek it out via other means that you can't moderate.
That said, I have no children so my opinion is invalid.
That said, I have no children so my opinion is invalid.
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Well, he is at high school now. His first year.
Just found out one of his mates has this... and also has GTA V. I certainly wouldn't condone that from what I know of GTA V.
I think some parents just don't know how to say know, or can't be bothered to investigate.
If hes at high school then I would reckon most of the kids at his school have these types of games. Nothing wrong with it either imo.
I bet hes watched porn, etc
If he hasn't he will be soon. No need for THE TALK when you have instructional videos.
You don't just let a child do, see or experience something on the basis that they've probably seen or done it already.
If he's got an iPhone (like many youngsters today) and Internet access he's probably already seen and heard things far worse than Far Cry 4 
If he's played CoD, then he may as well play FC4, the seal has been broken sorta speak.
If he's played CoD, then he may as well play FC4, the seal has been broken sorta speak.