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FreeSync monitors hit mass production, coming in Jan-Feb

ICDP said:
Which would then work on a standard DP1.3 monitor with adaptive sync. That's the point, one monitor tech fits all GPU vendors. This is not about the GPU vendor's method of supporting such a monitor, it is about having one single monitor tech that fits all vendors.

Nvidia call it gsync 2.0
AMD call it freesync
Intel call it something else.

Fragmenting the already niche GPU community over monitor tech is not helping the consumer. At least AMD have adopted the VESA Standard (there's that word again".
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Nobody knows what Nvidia have planned for their propitiatory Gsync modules going forward. They could open the tech to display scaler manufacturers for all we know.

The question is though, would we even be having this discussion if Nvidia had not decided to press ahead and bring this technology to market? Adaptive sync had been around in mobile devices for years, but it wasn't until Gsync started to make headlines that people decided what a wonderful idea it would be to bring it to stand alone displays. Strangely enough, a similar argument is made by Mantle supporters when the subject of DX12 is raised. Can't have your cake and eat it chaps. :)
 
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ICDP said:
Which would then work on a standard DP1.3 monitor with adaptive sync. That's the point, one monitor tech fits all GPU vendors. This is not about the GPU vendor's method of supporting such a monitor, it is about having one single monitor tech that fits all vendors.

Nvidia call it gsync 2.0
AMD call it freesync
Intel call it something else.

Fragmenting the already niche GPU community over monitor tech is not helping the consumer. At least AMD have adopted the VESA Standard (there's that word again".
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You're stating the obvious. Nobody here is saying G-Sync being vendor locked is of any benifit to the consumer. As of yet it's not really hurt anyone though. I've been using this technology for a few months now.

Also, as above. I doubt you'd of seen any kind of push if it weren't for G-Sync. But then that's another thread entirely on who's pushing who forward here.
 
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ICDP said:
Which would then work on a standard DP1.3 monitor with adaptive sync. That's the point, one monitor tech fits all GPU vendors. This is not about the GPU vendor's method of supporting such a monitor, it is about having one single monitor tech that fits all vendors.

Nvidia call it gsync 2.0
AMD call it freesync
Intel call it something else.

Fragmenting the already niche GPU community over monitor tech is not helping the consumer. At least AMD have adopted the VESA Standard (there's that word again".
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Well tbh there was no freesync or Vesa standard change to allow for this Before Gsync, Cant really blame them for being first, if no one was first none would innovate
 
Yet again there are people missing the point. This isn't about who got there first, it is about what is best for us as consumers.

  • Gsync monitors are locked down for Nvidia only.
  • Adaptive Sync monitors can be utilised by ANY GPU vendor as long as they adopt the VESA standard.

This will benefit us as consumers in the long run because we won't be tied to a particular GPU vendor based upon nothing but our choice of monitor.

It not about, which is bestest tech, or green vs red, or who did it first. Stop with the playground arguments. It's about what is best for us GPU enthusiasts in the long run. If this kind of tech ends up niche rather than standard we end up paying a premium.
 
so instead of crediting AMD for making a open standard you credit NVidia for first making a non open standard, interesting thinking there lol

if AMD had done the same we would be in a real mess right now
 
Mei said:
so instead of crediting AMD for making a open standard you credit NVidia for first making a non open standard, interesting thinking there lol

if AMD had done the same we would be in a real mess right now
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Exactly, it's an open standard vs a locked down proprietary tech. That means Nvidia, AMD, Intel, Matrox and whoever still makes GPUs.

Open = all GPU/APU vendors can adopt the tech.
Proprietarty = Niche.

See Trueadio, Hairworks, PhysX etc.
 
1440p 120hz IPS supports Freesync from Asus. No Gsync.
ASUS MG279Q 27-in 2560x1440 IPS 120 Hz Variable R…:

Priced $599 man not sure if I should wait for this. Swift was $799 and that was TN this is IPS wow
 
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shankly1985 said:
1440p 120hz IPS supports Freesync from Asus. No Gsync.
ASUS MG279Q 27-in 2560x1440 IPS 120 Hz Variable R…:

Priced $599 man not sure if I should wait for this. Swift was $799 and that was TN this is IPS wow
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That's pretty awesome, and should put pressure on the current Gsync tax as well. Heck. I'd buy that even with non adaptive sync capable graphics cards.
 
shankly1985 said:
1440p 120hz IPS supports Freesync from Asus. No Gsync.
ASUS MG279Q 27-in 2560x1440 IPS 120 Hz Variable R…:

Priced $599 man not sure if I should wait for this.
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Certainly interesting.... grrr. I do suspect that rather like the other 120hz ips panel that was out(forget who did it tbh) it will be fast for a IPS but no where near the performance of a fast TN. The question is where is fast, fast enough.

At least it means 3 1440p 120+ screens(Asus g-sync, BenQ and this one) which means some fighting on prices. I have a feeling that will cost a noticeable amount more than the BenQ which I haven't as yet seen a price on. I wouldn't be surprised if a high refresh rate IPS carried a pretty hefty premium over a TN panel so kind of hoping the BenQ is in the $450 range.

It's good as well there will be 2x freesync screens with 120+hz/1440p as if it was just the BenQ they could attempt to price it as if while there is another screen in the Swift, there is only one freesync screen and one g-sync screen, so not much competition as AMD/Nvidia users only have a single choice still. Hopefully that means at least for AMD that there is some competition between screens and maybe for Nvidia users that will have the knock on effect of users seeing say £350 BenQ with the same specs as a £600 Swift and it helps g-sync prices drop for Nvidia guys.


EDIT:- also worth noting as in the video, it's adaptive sync but isn't branded anything AMD at all. Asus is such an Nvidia whore so their freesync screens won't get any mention they support freesync so as to not upset Nvidia.

At least a 120hz/1440p/27" panel is being made. I'd forgotten about the Asus tax where they just take the same product and change you 10-30% more for no reason. Possible other companies will follow with similar spec/same panel but be more like $450-499 price range, maybe the BenQ will be even cheaper than I thought.
 
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If that IPS 120HZ 2560x1440 launches at £500 or under, I'd be very surprised. (Very very positively)

But it'd surely make the Gsync monitor at least match it in price (Or at least you'd hope, which is a good thing for Nvidia users)
 
That's what I thinking now DM,
I hear loads reports about IPS having slower response time and input lag vs a TN panel..

Never used an IPS display but I hear great things about them picture quality wise.
Headache now because BenQ was my number one buy.
I would have space for 2x 27" though ;)
 
drunkenmaster said:
Certainly interesting.... grrr. I do suspect that rather like the other 120hz ips panel that was out(forget who did it tbh) it will be fast for a IPS but no where near the performance of a fast TN. The question is where is fast, fast enough.
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no lots of blur/ghosting would be fast enough i think :)
 
Martini1991 said:
If that IPS 120HZ 2560x1440 launches at £500 or under, I'd be very surprised. (Very very positively)

But it'd surely make the Gsync monitor at least match it in price (Or at least you'd hope, which is a good thing for Nvidia users)
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From Nvidia's history, I would genuinely think that Asus/Nvidia will try and keep the number of options relatively low and it has a hardware cost increase that they aren't going to make a loss on. I would think over time they'll bring the price down but still try and cut out an increased margin on it. I absolutely don't think Asus in general or g-sync monitors in general will be matching prices with freesync/adaptive sync monitors directly.

So lets say the BenQ is £400 and Swift is £600(on sale which it seems to be often though the rrp is £750 iirc), we might see the swift hit say £475-500, I sincerely doubt they'd drop to sub £450 and I'd bet money they wouldn't sell at £400.
 
Yeah it's funny how Asus hide away Freesync support I wounder why?
If I was to pick this I would want to know 100% first if amd drivers will support this display.
 
Have we seen any designed from the outset 120Hz IPS displays before? I don't mean those cheap overclocked Korean jobs.
 
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