Has anyone gone x99 ?

[Dave2150]

Guys I posted this a page back....

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27488295&postcount=137







It's 264 points...@ 4ghz 5820k

Why are you still banging on about it...I've already posted my results against the 5820 at 4 ghz

Stop selectively ignoring posts

Your also forgetting the fact that X99 clocks higher than the xeon's on X58 - so it's way more than 100 or 260 points difference, just look at the pictures above, you seem slow on the uptake so study them carefully.

 

[easyrider]

Your also forgetting the fact that X99 clocks higher than the xeon's on X58 - so it's way more than 100 or 260 points difference, just look at the pictures above, you seem slow on the uptake so study them carefully.

Do you understand the term clock for clock?

No one is arguing that the 22nm chips clock higher....it's you who is getting his knickers in a twist

 

[ALXAndy]

Boomstick's Cinebench score to me is irrelevant because he does not run that clock 24/7. IIRC he can't due to the heat it creates.

My 3970x does 4.7 ghz all the time, well within temps. I can bench at 4.9 ghz but haven't posted the scores as they're useless imo.

IIRC boom runs his chip more like 4.2 ghz daily which is far less impressive.

Don't be buying a 5820k expecting uber clocks for daily or you'll find yourself very disappointed. Some barely manage 4 ghz.

 

[Dave2150]

Do you understand the term clock for clock?

No one is arguing that the 22nm chips clock higher....it's you who is getting his knickers in a twist

It's you who is failing to understand. Your comparing the CPU's clock for clock - when as you now admit, X99 22mm chips clock higher than X58 - so it's a stupid comparison to base your accusations that x99 is barely faster than your 6 year old x58.

I know that some find CPU's, frequencies, benchmarks results confusing, I'd recommend reading up on the subject to better educate yourself. When looking at overall performance, you have to consider many things, including the clock speeds that are obtainable as well as the IPC of the CPU's, as well as the number of cores. You do realize the 5820k has 6 and the 5960x has 8, right?.......

 

[silvagti]

Well, I've taken the plunge and ordered an X99 setup to replace my 5 year old X58/i7-920. I think this is probably the longest I've gone without upgrading my PC actually.

I've been putting it off for a while now, and nearly went with a 4770k/4970k earlier in the year, but felt like the 6-cores offered by X99 was a better reason to upgrade and its the first time since X58 that I've felt Intel's enthusiast line-up offered something that warranted the price tag.

In a lot of ways it's kind of depressing to think that a Intel's latest and greatest is only offering double the CPU performance, on average from the benchmarks I've seen, of a 5 year old CPU but I'm at a point where the rest of my system could do with an upgrade (GPU, monitor, SSD, HDD) and it seems like I might aswell spend a few hundred changing the CPU/mobo/RAM if I'm going to do that.

Plus at the end of the day double my existing CPU performance, whilst not a huge jump given 5 years have passed, is still a decent increase compared to what I have just now. I could have probably held on for Skylake but honestly I feel like now's a good time to upgrade for me. I don't really want to wait another year with my existing setup for Skylake to come out.

At any rate I'm excited about the prospect of getting a new PC after 5 years regardless of whether people think it's a huge leap forward over X58

 

[DragonQ]

There's been a clock speed "wall" since Sandy Bridge, hasn't there? I'm sure that could reach the high 4.x GHz range, which is the same as current chips. That, coupled with the minimal IPC improvements as of late leave me unenthused about the medium-term future.

 

[easyrider]

It's you who is failing to understand. Your comparing the CPU's clock for clock - when as you now admit, X99 22mm chips clock higher than X58 - so it's a stupid comparison to base your accusations that x99 is barely faster than your 6 year old x58.

I know that some find CPU's, frequencies, benchmarks results confusing, I'd recommend reading up on the subject to better educate yourself. When looking at overall performance, you have to consider many things, including the clock speeds that are obtainable as well as the IPC of the CPU's, as well as the number of cores. You do realize the 5820k has 6 and the 5960x has 8, right?.......

Dude...I've been clocking PCs for years...I've done phase I've done water and I'm done with you....

You don't need to educate me about hardware and overclocking amigo...I'm done with the epeen benchies game and benchmark clocks don't interest me anymore...I'm interested in 24/7 usage...with a balance of heat and MHz...

I'm due an upgrade...I've always had the latest and greatest...but the last couple of years the computer hardware arena has bored me....like many others x58 has been legendary and it's still holding its own for many...
Do a search....look at my phase change thread...I don't need educating mate....and certainly not by the likes of you amigo

 

[easyrider]

Well, I've taken the plunge and ordered an X99 setup to replace my 5 year old X58/i7-920. I think this is probably the longest I've gone without upgrading my PC actually.

I've been putting it off for a while now, and nearly went with a 4770k/4970k earlier in the year, but felt like the 6-cores offered by X99 was a better reason to upgrade and its the first time since X58 that I've felt Intel's enthusiast line-up offered something that warranted the price tag.

In a lot of ways it's kind of depressing to think that a Intel's latest and greatest is only offering double the CPU performance, on average from the benchmarks I've seen, of a 5 year old CPU but I'm at a point where the rest of my system could do with an upgrade (GPU, monitor, SSD, HDD) and it seems like I might aswell spend a few hundred changing the CPU/mobo/RAM if I'm going to do that.

Plus at the end of the day double my existing CPU performance, whilst not a huge jump given 5 years have passed, is still a decent increase compared to what I have just now. I could have probably held on for Skylake but honestly I feel like now's a good time to upgrade for me. I don't really want to wait another year with my existing setup for Skylake to come out.

At any rate I'm excited about the prospect of getting a new PC after 5 years regardless of whether people think it's a huge leap forward over X58

Good for you mate....I'm wanting to upgrade but out of boredom really ...not by the need for more performance...my PC does all the things I need it to do...I know if I upgrade to x99 I'll see diddly squat performance increase in games and maybe a few seconds of my render times when video editing...

But everyone likes shiney new things regardless if we need them or not...

 

[Dave2150]

There's been a clock speed "wall" since Sandy Bridge, hasn't there? I'm sure that could reach the high 4.x GHz range, which is the same as current chips. That, coupled with the minimal IPC improvements as of late leave me unenthused about the medium-term future.

Yeh there has been a wall since Sandybridge, though the X58 systems that we were comparing to x99 pre-date the Sandybridge architecture, so they just can't reach the same clocks Haswell-E can.

 

[Dave2150]

Dude...I've been clocking PCs for years...I've done phase I've done water and I'm done with you....

You don't need to educate me about hardware and overclocking amigo...I'm done with the epeen benchies game and benchmark clocks don't interest me anymore...I'm interested in 24/7 usage...with a balance of heat and MHz...

I'm due an upgrade...I've always had the latest and greatest...but the last couple of years the computer hardware arena has bored me....like many others x58 has been legendary and it's still holding its own for many...
Do a search....look at my phase change thread...I don't need educating mate....and certainly not by the likes of you amigo

When you post things like this:

Take Cinebench...100 points more on X99 over my 6 year old X58 system...FACT

I'd be well miffed spending 1k on shiny new kit and it gets 100 odd points more in a bench against 6 year old tech....

I don't consider you to be 'educated' at all on the latest hardware around. I consider you to be ignorant to the facts, childish in that you can't accept reality and foolish that you think a X58 system can compete against X99.

 

[easyrider]

When you post things like this:





I don't consider you to be 'educated' at all on the latest hardware around. I consider you to be ignorant to the facts, childish in that you can't accept reality and foolish that you think a X58 system can compete against X99.

I want a bacon....

 

[Mick-1965]

Boomstick's Cinebench score to me is irrelevant because he does not run that clock 24/7. IIRC he can't due to the heat it creates.

My 3970x does 4.7 ghz all the time, well within temps. I can bench at 4.9 ghz but haven't posted the scores as they're useless imo.

IIRC boom runs his chip more like 4.2 ghz daily which is far less impressive.

Don't be buying a 5820k expecting uber clocks for daily or you'll find yourself very disappointed. Some barely manage 4 ghz.

There is something not right with mr boomsticks cinebench score.
I'm only 8 pts shy of that but I'm only at 4.25GHz Which is my 24/7 speed....for now

 

[tipes]

Guys - can we not all just get along here, and respect each others oppinions without getting personal about it. Surely one mans meat is another's poison rightly or wrongly. We are surely arguing here over semantics. As I see it, it is purely up to each individual to decide what is right or not for them, based on many different factors. I personally had x58 system until a few years or so ago, and it was a great system. I have now moved to X99 at admittedly the expense, and in truth perhaps the wow factor is not as great as I would have liked, but I am certainly not overall disappointed, despite the large cost involved.
I can see/ agree with arguments on both sides of the fence, but is there any real need to be bitchy about it? I don't think being bitchy serves any purpose for any of us on here.

Just my two pence worth. ymmv.

Mark

 

[ALXAndy]

Guys - can we not all just get along here, and respect each others oppinions without getting personal about it. Surely one mans meat is another's poison rightly or wrongly. We are surely arguing here over semantics. As I see it, it is purely up to each individual to decide what is right or not for them, based on many different factors. I personally had x58 system until a few years or so ago, and it was a great system. I have now moved to X99 at admittedly the expense, and in truth perhaps the wow factor is not as great as I would have liked, but I am certainly not overall disappointed, despite the large cost involved.
I can see/ agree with arguments on both sides of the fence, but is there any real need to be bitchy about it? I don't think being bitchy serves any purpose for any of us on here.

Just my two pence worth. ymmv.

Mark

It's got nothing on the GPU section

 

[easyrider]

. I have now moved to X99 at admittedly the expense, and in truth perhaps the wow factor is not as great as I would have liked,

This was exactly my point....I'm allowed an opinion....seems others want to defend their purchases to the death

It's a computer that computes binary at the end of the day

 

[mmj_uk]

Are you sure about this?

My understanding of it was that the software just sees xGB of memory and has no idea of the channels involved, in the same way that software just sees a RAID stripe as one volume and the controller controls R/W distribution.

You're correct, quad channel memory doesn't need optimising for.

He's just spouting rubbish as usual, if he believes it then it's true don't bother arguing.

 

[ALXAndy]

Thing is people like Mark (Tipes) are the exception to the rule here. Most of these people getting itchy saying they're going to upgrade to X99 would upgrade to a wet tissue if Intel sneezed in one !

It's the same with Nvidia. The amount of people I've seen replacing 780s and 290s with 970s.. Madness.

If you're going to hang onto this rig and keep it for four or five years then sure ! by all means go with X99. It's like X58 was and X79, a lot of investment so you really need to hold onto it to get the most out of it. But most won't. Give them six months and they'll sell it at a loss to buy whatever crap Intel decide to release next.

The last time I invested more than a grand in a rig was 2001. I bought a dual P3 Xeon rig on a Marlinspike board running Windows 2000. It was an epic rig and I had it for three years before upgrading the board and CPUs to 2mb 866 Xeons.

Since then ? I've gone with mid range CPUs so I've had plenty of Intel and AMD. It was only because I had a bit of a windfall that I decided to invest in Titan Blacks and a 3970x and I fully expect that rig to last me for years and years before I even think about changing anything in it.

It's a bit of a nightmare trying to talk sense on a forum like this, given sense was chucked out of the window the day the place opened lol.

 

[tipes]

This was exactly my point....I'm allowed an opinion....seems others want to defend their purchases to the death

It's a computer that computes binary at the end of the day

Quite so. I do bench occasionally, just for the fun of it - but I won't get carried away by it.

I think you may like x99, but I respect your own decisions, and it is your choice at the end of the day.

Mark

 

[ALXAndy]

You're correct, quad channel memory doesn't need optimising for.

He's just spouting rubbish as usual, if he believes it then it's true don't bother arguing.

I said it as some one who types lots of code (ever wondered why my threads and posts are mostly one liners?!).

I assumed that it needed optimising for. In fact, I would be very surprised if you couldn't optimise code for more memory lanes.

 

[easyrider]

Quite so. I do bench occasionally, just for the fun of it - but I won't get carried away by it.

I think you may like x99, but I respect your own decisions, and it is your choice at the end of the day.

Mark

I'll like the build...getting new shiney etc...but once the dust settles I'll doubt I will notice any improvement in games or video editing...but that's the nature of the beast....

I'll be sat in front of the pc ...wallet lighter with not a lot to show off it...

But I fully understand that....this is what pc hardware does....it's addictive and expensive lol