Sky to Block your favourite sites by default...
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Just moved, or rather started the process of moving to Plusnet fibre. Requested, via email, the MAC code and within a few minutes had a nice girl call Brenda asking why I wanted to move and whether Sky could offer me something to hold me.
I did mentioned the forthcoming plan by Sky to block pornography by default and I am sure I could feel the heat of her blush through the phone. It was not the main reason to move. I mainly don't like the company and speed has not been as constant as it was under Be. So final straw and a move to quadruple speeds, hopefully.
I did mentioned the forthcoming plan by Sky to block pornography by default and I am sure I could feel the heat of her blush through the phone. It was not the main reason to move. I mainly don't like the company and speed has not been as constant as it was under Be. So final straw and a move to quadruple speeds, hopefully.
I disagree - the parents who don't give a **** about their kids will be the ones lapping up the Daily Mail headlines of PORN MADE MY HUSBAND A RAPIST PAEDOPHILE and falling over themselves to vilify anyone who dares even mention the words "personal responsibility"...
... whereas the intelligent ones who take steps to protect their children anyway will realise that a) blocking something that some people don't like is a dangerous precedent to be setting, b) ultimately it's their responsibility to look after their kids, both by controlling what they access and by educating* them and c) that a few images of naked boobies aren't going to do anyone any harm anyway**
See, I can play Sweeping Generalisation Top Trumps as well!
* whatever happened to the idea that parents should be responsible for educating their kids? It's very sad that these days it seems that for the majority of people, it's "someone else's job"
** yes I realise that there are far worse things out there than a few images of naked boobies, however IMO instead of implementing a block that any horny 12 year old with access to google could circumvent within 5 minutes, it's far more important for the parent to teach the child and help them realise WHY some things aren't really acceptable.
I disagree - the parents who don't give a **** about their kids will be the ones lapping up the Daily Mail headlines of PORN MADE MY HUSBAND A RAPIST PAEDOPHILE and falling over themselves to vilify anyone who dares even mention the words "personal responsibility"...
... whereas the intelligent ones who take steps to protect their children anyway will realise that a) blocking something that some people don't like is a dangerous precedent to be setting, b) ultimately it's their responsibility to look after their kids, both by controlling what they access and by educating* them and c) that a few images of naked boobies aren't going to do anyone any harm anyway**
See, I can play Sweeping Generalisation Top Trumps as well!
* whatever happened to the idea that parents should be responsible for educating their kids? It's very sad that these days it seems that for the majority of people, it's "someone else's job"
** yes I realise that there are far worse things out there than a few images of naked boobies, however IMO instead of implementing a block that any horny 12 year old with access to google could circumvent within 5 minutes, it's far more important for the parent to teach the child and help them realise WHY some things aren't really acceptable.
Nail - Head.
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I disagree - the parents who don't give a **** about their kids will be the ones lapping up the Daily Mail headlines of PORN MADE MY HUSBAND A RAPIST PAEDOPHILE and falling over themselves to vilify anyone who dares even mention the words "personal responsibility"...
... whereas the intelligent ones who take steps to protect their children anyway will realise that a) blocking something that some people don't like is a dangerous precedent to be setting, b) ultimately it's their responsibility to look after their kids, both by controlling what they access and by educating* them and c) that a few images of naked boobies aren't going to do anyone any harm anyway**
See, I can play Sweeping Generalisation Top Trumps as well!
* whatever happened to the idea that parents should be responsible for educating their kids? It's very sad that these days it seems that for the majority of people, it's "someone else's job"
** yes I realise that there are far worse things out there than a few images of naked boobies, however IMO instead of implementing a block that any horny 12 year old with access to google could circumvent within 5 minutes, it's far more important for the parent to teach the child and help them realise WHY some things aren't really acceptable.
So why not have the best of both worlds? Educate them and put in place a block at the source. If you don't want it there then fair enough, get it lifted by logging into a website and unchecking an option.
Some tech savvy 12 year olds will probably, if they are that bothered, get around it. No reason to leave the door open for even younger kids to stumble upon it. Most parents barely know how to turn a pc on, let alone set up parental controls.
I actually agree this kind of content should be blocked by default, there are a lot families out there that don't monitor what their children are looking at, yes the fault is mostly with the parents but this at least offers some base protection.
Also this might shock some users here but not everyone looks at these sites or wants access to them.
If they want to access them, then login to their account and turn off the block, of course if they force users to call to request this it could be a little embarrassing for some.
Wouldn't bother me.
Also this might shock some users here but not everyone looks at these sites or wants access to them.
If they want to access them, then login to their account and turn off the block, of course if they force users to call to request this it could be a little embarrassing for some.
Wouldn't bother me.
how long before they realise it's too easy to opt out
or doesn't work as intended and stronger controls are put in place with no opt out
we already have it with the tv can't change channel without inputing a 4 digit pin due to program clasification
or doesn't work as intended and stronger controls are put in place with no opt out
we already have it with the tv can't change channel without inputing a 4 digit pin due to program clasification
Were adult magazines "blocked" in the olden days before internet? Nope. everyone turned out alright, right?
Thought so
Educate kids properly and blocks for pr0n shouldn't ever be needed anyway.
This type of stuff makes it into the media and filters down because of the same kind of people complaining, the type that write letters to the BBC every time Clarkson says something that they find ruffles their feathers.
It does absolutely nothing to stop kids accessing adult content, they will just find other methods. Kids are sharper than most average adults.
Thought so
Educate kids properly and blocks for pr0n shouldn't ever be needed anyway.
This type of stuff makes it into the media and filters down because of the same kind of people complaining, the type that write letters to the BBC every time Clarkson says something that they find ruffles their feathers.
It does absolutely nothing to stop kids accessing adult content, they will just find other methods. Kids are sharper than most average adults.
Am I being stupid here but why not just set a white list via group policy (or on the router) and give yours kids a standard windows account. Is that too simple?
Phones maybe a different problem, or you could just buy them a non smart one.
Phones maybe a different problem, or you could just buy them a non smart one.
Because this won't happen. Putting a block in place automatically takes away responsibility from the parents, encouraging apathy.
No, it's "someone else's responsibility"
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Soldato
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You don't get it, it's not about the pr0n but about the block / filtering, the government can next decide that we can't go to certain news sites or block certain blogs as they are critical of their behaviours / actions.
The creep towards total control has started and obviously they have started with something that is legal (for over 18's) to test the waters .........
Who knows where it will end as long as the mantra is "Think of the children"
Since when can kids walk into a shop and buy an adult magazine? sure, they can look at the front covers if they're tall enough but that's about it unless they find a stash.
I don't see how that's the same thing at all as the blame would fall entirely with the parents.
Not all parents are computer literate and understand how to block adult content online, they may have the best of intentions for their kids but lack the experience and confidence to ask or look for help, this happens a lot.
Paranoid much? adults can simply login to unblock the content.
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In camorons first public mention of his new censorship plans he actually stated esoteric sites as well as porn, it's been established that savile went to parties and events at camorons wifes dads country house may be that's the kind of stuff he wants to hide.
The stuff you might have seen in a magazine all those years ago is a lot different to some of the stuff you can get to within seconds on the internet! Not saying "porn bad mmkay" but it's stuff children should not be seeing.
There is of course the worry that it's a creep to more state control... well that's a tougher one as it's a lot of ifs and buts. On face value blocking this stuff isn't a bad thing. If they tried pushing it to other areas then people would rightfully be outraged. However we don't live in a dictatorship. Bit too early to be popping on the tin foil hats.
There is of course the worry that it's a creep to more state control... well that's a tougher one as it's a lot of ifs and buts. On face value blocking this stuff isn't a bad thing. If they tried pushing it to other areas then people would rightfully be outraged. However we don't live in a dictatorship. Bit too early to be popping on the tin foil hats.
Soldato
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Then the answer is those parents are forced to take lessons of competency before they are approved to subscribe to the internet. Rather than a blanket cover for the whole country
Nothing to do with paranoia but ensuring that we still have freedoms within the four walls that we call our home
Easier said than done, how will you enforce this? who is going to pay for it?
But you still do have freedom to view this content, login and unblock, it's that simple.
Maybe at some point down the road where they try and block content for all users with no way to unblock said content your point will be valid, but right now it's not.
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The parent of course as this ruling is to protect the children, easily enforced by the ISP they would run the course and once completed the ISP would turn the interwebs.
Make that a national ruling and only those affected are impacted NOT the whole country
I will start one that pushes nothing but porn down the line £40pcm no BW cap 24/7 HC Porn!