How to avoid capital gains tax when selling a second property?

I had the chance to dodge a large amount of stamp duty last year. I decided against dodging it because I want this country to have well-funded public services. The extra money would have been nice but I'd rather play to the spirit of the rules.

I realise that this isn't a popular view though.

I assume it was SDLT you "could" have dodged?

In which case how?

Not that I'm trying to do the same but there were a number of scams where people thought they had dodged it but it came back after them.

As for as I know there was no legal way to dodge SDLT
 
I think the OP should be about paying the right CGT. There is no obvious way to minimise without going through serious loopholes.

As for being rich enough. That's just a fallacy, circumstance and situation can lead to having two houses. Plus it doesn't mean you are rich - people have cars worth more than the deposit needed on a BTL house. It's about priorities and choices.

Many people don't even think about pensions either as they want to live for today.
 
If you're rich enough to have two houses, pony up and pay the tax that's due :rolleyes:

This is why people are selfish ****s and half the population can't afford housing



Thats all the OP wants to do is to pay what tax is due. He's not trying to evade paying the tax he just wants to avoid paying more than he should.

Nowt wrong with that unless your happy paying more tax than you should
 
No, it's because half the population didn't try hard enough at school. This 'someone else's fault' culture is far too prevalent.


Now i find this comment insulting, i kinda like you as a poster, but you have crossed the line, what is it with these forums members who go about thinking Elitism look at me, i find you rather pathetic and i would tell and deal with you face to face if you spoke with this attitude to me.
Going back to the op post pay what you are due without snaking out of what you have to pay, your in lucky position to own two properties so deal with it.
 
Thats all the OP wants to do is to pay what tax is due. He's not trying to evade paying the tax he just wants to avoid paying more than he should.

Nowt wrong with that unless your happy paying more tax than you should

and thats the problem isn't it the tax rules are complex and hardly ever straight forward

i would have thought that the best course of action would be to seek out professional advice ok it will cost but surely the money saved would be worth it
 
I assume it was SDLT you "could" have dodged?

In which case how?

Not that I'm trying to do the same but there were a number of scams where people thought they had dodged it but it came back after them.

As for as I know there was no legal way to dodge SDLT

The most likely "dodge" would have been the introduction of the new SDLT. There was an option for those who had agreed sales before the announcement to use either system.

Are we talking a large gain here?
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...exchange-for-resurrection-of-mansion-tax.html

Inheritance tax is "widely avoided", but at the same time brings in 3.2 billion. Contradictory article is contradictory.

I wonder how easy it would be to axe IHT and find the money some other, less offensive, more straightforward and less avoidable way. That's what the LibDems say they want to do, and it seems pretty sensible to me.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...exchange-for-resurrection-of-mansion-tax.html

Inheritance tax is "widely avoided", but at the same time brings in 3.2 billion. Contradictory article is contradictory.

I wonder how easy it would be to axe IHT and find the money some other, less offensive, more straightforward and less avoidable way. That's what the LibDems say they want to do, and it seems pretty sensible to me.

Sorry cross posting with another thread but.
With current fuel prices being 15p pl down. if the government added back that 15p would bring in £6.9Billion per year
 
My mom has the problem of trying to pass on a house to me and my sister without losing most of the money in the process. If my mom pass it on to us it takes 7 years and you pay inheritance tax on the full amount and then we each pay capital gains tax. If my mom sells it then and givus us money we get hit with capital gains tax twice.

Virtually all of what you have said is tripe.
If she signs the house over to you and your sister, then you don't pay any inheritance tax, unless she dies within seven years.
You don't pay any capital gains tax, unless you try to sell the property later.
Then you pay on the 'capital gain', as in the money you benefited (earned) during ownership.
If your mum lives in it, and sells it, she doesn't pay any capitals gains tax, as she lives in it.
If she gifts you money, you won't pay the inheritance unless she dies within seven years.
 
I know you work in the medical profession so don't think I'm questioning you because I mistrust your motives but why have you just picked band 5 when there are 9 bands?

Because most nurses don't get above band 5.

People don't become nurses for the pay. But nurses are paid compartively low because they aren't exactly in short supply, and that sadly effects how much someone is worth to their employer.

But they are in short supply. It says more about what people really value ie not each other but base selfish needs.

@ Dolph I agree but the poster made a point saying people could easily afford such things. I demonstrated with the largest group in the biggst employer why they were wrong.
 
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Virtually all of what you have said is tripe.
If she signs the house over to you and your sister, then you don't pay any inheritance tax, unless she dies within seven years.
You don't pay any capital gains tax, unless you try to sell the property later.
Then you pay on the 'capital gain', as in the money you benefited (earned) during ownership.
If your mum lives in it, and sells it, she doesn't pay any capitals gains tax, as she lives in it.
If she gifts you money, you won't pay the inheritance unless she dies within seven years.

This. Also iirc each year of those 7 you pay a little bit less in tax than what was due orginally.
 
Virtually all of what you have said is tripe.
If she signs the house over to you and your sister, then you don't pay any inheritance tax, unless she dies within seven years.
You don't pay any capital gains tax, unless you try to sell the property later.
Then you pay on the 'capital gain', as in the money you benefited (earned) during ownership.
If your mum lives in it, and sells it, she doesn't pay any capitals gains tax, as she lives in it.
If she gifts you money, you won't pay the inheritance unless she dies within seven years.

Thanks for clearing that up. So what would you recommend is the best option then.
 
Good for you. :) I wouldn't argue against it at all - but if I had a legitimate way of minimising my tax burden I'd take it, but that's why the world is a wonderful diverse place, because everyone is different. :)
Precisely - Why would anyone pay more tax than they are legally required to? How many people here voluntarily pay more tax via PAYE or Self assessment than required? "ooh, I owe the HMRC £300 tax this month but you know what, I'll send them £400 to pass onto the NHS - won't someone think of the nurses!!!" Half my family are either nurses or work for the NHS and even they roll their eyes every time someone rolls out the "won't someone think of the angelic nurses" trope.
 
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Thanks for clearing that up. So what would you recommend is the best option then.

I am neither an accountant, or a financial advisor.
It would depend if she is likely to die, if she lives in the house, if you would allow her to stay in the house after she signs it over to you, if you plan to rent it to others if the house must be sold.
There are a great many factors involved.
Professional advice would be my recommendation.
 
She is not likely to die, she does not live in the house.

What about if we remortgaged the house (its about £4000 from being paid off) then took that money back to the uk and put it down on a house or two in the uk. ie i buy a house and my sister buys a house. It is currently being rented out and the rent covers the mortgage cost.

The other option is to move it to my sister and mine name asap to avoid inheritance tax and just hold on to it.

We are definitely going to speak to a professional about it.
 
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I assume it was SDLT you "could" have dodged?

In which case how?

Not that I'm trying to do the same but there were a number of scams where people thought they had dodged it but it came back after them.

As for as I know there was no legal way to dodge SDLT

Sorry for the delay in replying.

The way advised by our accountant was to buy the property through a company. Various law firms were willing to do the work and guaranteed to pay the remaining stamp duty themselves if the scheme was ruled illegal. Buying a four-bedroom house in a nice part of London, this obviously would have saved us a significant amount of money.

I'm not sure it if it is still legal. It certainly was when we bought the property as our neighbour used this method to buy their house around the same time. This was before the new stamp duty rules were announced.
 
She is not likely to die, she does not live in the house.

What about if we remortgaged the house (its about £4000 from being paid off) then took that money back to the uk and put it down on a house or two in the uk. ie i buy a house and my sister buys a house. It is currently being rented out and the rent covers the mortgage cost.

The other option is to move it to my sister and mine name asap to avoid inheritance tax and just hold on to it.

We are definitely going to speak to a professional about it.

How much is the house worth?

Will there be any tax to pay anyhow
 
Sorry for the delay in replying.

The way advised by our accountant was to buy the property through a company. Various law firms were willing to do the work and guaranteed to pay the remaining stamp duty themselves if the scheme was ruled illegal. Buying a four-bedroom house in a nice part of London, this obviously would have saved us a significant amount of money.

I'm not sure it if it is still legal. It certainly was when we bought the property as our neighbour used this method to buy their house around the same time. This was before the new stamp duty rules were announced.


There have been a number of "legal" ways to avoid stamp duty. Guaranteed by companies which then fold after taking a chunk of money off you.

I also thought companies pay more in SDLT 15% now over £500k

Buying it through a company may have been cheaper but you'll pay corporation tax on any profit(increase in value) when you come to sell
 
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