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What's the best budget AMD CPU for gaming?

ALXAndy said:
Are you speaking from experience there? Or is it as I suspect, more Intel Witness anti AMD trump?
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i am an AMD Fan boy, and i am been serous. but you can't deny for games its 8 core or intel

this is my run from 17/06/2014, 6300 @ 4.2 - 280x
mother board was a dam sight better than the one your specking MSI 990XA-GD55

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/2663661 - 4670(none K) @ 3.4Ghz - 7950
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2326438 - 6300 @ 4.2 - 280x

the intel is running with an less GPU but the scores are the same
 
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Plenty of advice here to make your decision now. Going down the usual cpu rivalry sniping subjective opinions can halt further pages wasted. So much energy is best for another topic that has scope.
 
Th0nt said:
Plenty of advice here to make your decision now. Going down the usual cpu rivalry sniping subjective opinions can halt further pages wasted. So much energy is best for another topic that has scope.
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Lol. Sensing that. But thanks all for the replies
 
The 78lmt-usb3 is a 4+1 however it also has an 8 pin atx power connector but it's the only matx capable of overclocking without throttling. The downside is it is an older 760g chipset with no crossfire support. But it does have onboard igp.



Heatsink removed to show power reg




Recent Fx silicon on all models, have been refined in the last year or so, and less voltage is required to hit the sweet spot of 4.5-4.8ghz in comparison to earlier fx cpu's. The secret to Fx overclocking is keeping the temperatures down around the socket area and vrms, cpu. On average the voltage required for 4.5ghz is around 1.30-1.40v and this board will hold an fx63 upto 1.55v and an fx83 upto 1.45v without an issue. In most cases peoples budget cooling will hold back their overclocking before the board does.

Disabling the apm mode in the bios will eliminate throttling, however the vrms still have a safety throttle built in at the very upmost of High current loading which is 1.5v or during excessive vrm temperature. Also the board has a seperate bios option for cpu thermal control, So you can't kill these boards as they still protect themselves at suicide overclocking attempts when apm is disabled.

 
P4Clock said:
i am an AMD Fan boy, and i am been serous. but you can't deny for games its 8 core or intel

this is my run from 17/06/2014, 6300 @ 4.2 - 280x
mother board was a dam sight better than the one your specking MSI 990XA-GD55

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/2663661 - 4670(none K) @ 3.4Ghz - 7950
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2326438 - 6300 @ 4.2 - 280x

the intel is running with an less GPU but the scores are the same
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The two benches are totally different?
edit, firestrike vs skydiver
 
Nice summary of the board^^

Its also worth pointing out the first revision of the board has a slightly different bios,that doesnt have the APM options in it.As far as im aware this revisions updated bio'es never recieved that option.

It is possible to disable/enable the APM from in windows with a reg fix and simple CMD command tho. :)
 
MrMD said:
Nice summary of the board^^

Its also worth pointing out the first revision of the board has a slightly different bios,that doesnt have the APM options in it.As far as im aware this revisions updated bio'es never recieved that option.

It is possible to disable/enable the APM from in windows with a reg fix and simple CMD command tho. :)
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Forgot to mention that, well remembered.
There is a bios which has been made for the rev 4 board that includes an apm option.
Just finding link
 
The fact is there's probably not going to be a lot of difference between the A8-5600K ArchAnGeL already has and a FX6300 in the majority of games, so why is anyone pushing him to immediately rush out and buy their favourite brand of processor? he may well get more performance by sticking with what he has (A8-5600K) and using the money saved to buy a better GPU depending on what resolution his monitor is.

If after looking at benchmarks that aren't heavily GPU bottlenecked (*cough* ALXAndy's video) he does want an FX6300 then I'm happy to give him the benefit of my experience and recommend a better quality motherboard, rather than recommend the cheapest one just to make the point publically that AMD systems can cost less (if quality isn't a concern). When motherboard manufacturers advertise 400% longer lifetime capacitors etc on their high end boards they aren't joking, you get what you pay for in this world.

I've not played Arma/Dayz but if what P4Clock says is true about it not very well threaded then it's true what he says that even a Pentium K will outperform any AMD CPU, even AMD have admitted that their modular architecture was a flop and are going back to fewer bigger cores if rumours are true, so a Pentium K now with view to being able to upgrade it to a super fast quad (4690K) later wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
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MMJ you do make some valid points about seeing how the old trinity chip gets on and in particular the resolution and actual games played.
However with the hardware the op has to hand I'd experiment with the I3
or the A8, but both would hold back a gtx960 quite a bit at 1080p.

The title of the thread though is whats the best budget Amd cpu and in my opinion there are two, the Athlon x4 860k, for fm2+ and the Fx6300 for am3+

The 78lmt usb3 is more than robust enough for an fx6300, I used it on the fx8320 for
months before selling the cpu off to my friend.
An Asus 6+2 digi is my personal minimum spec choice on an fx8320, but don't knock the 78Matx if you haven't tried it.

Bearing in mind if you haven't got a decent cpu cooler then the savings against an intel could be made redundant.
 
I can see why people recommend intel if you are splashing money on the cooler, considering you want to overhaul the motherboard too. If you have a collection of spares and can delboy on the MM or popular auction site then you have many options to suit your needs.
 
Would recommend any Intel CPU in your budget. You'll get a much more futureproof and up to date platform (the AMD platforms are over 2 years old).

The Intel CPU's also run cooler, consume less electricity etc.
 
Dave2150 said:
Would recommend any Intel CPU in your budget. You'll get a much more futureproof and up to date platform (the AMD platforms are over 2 years old).

The Intel CPU's also run cooler, consume less electricity etc.
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1. Socket AM3+ was launched in 2011. AMD are still releasing CPUS for it. That's four years. Try saying that about any Intel socket ever.

2. Intel CPUs run far hotter than AMD CPUs.

Power argument - yawn. Read the PCPER review, it's certainly nothing to worry about.
 
*sighs* again someone asks about AMD cpus; people come in recommending other things like Pent G series; while its ave frames are decent; when frame pacing and mim frames are show its utter crap.....

Once you start overclocking; any care about power is out the window. Honestly AMD cpus are a lot stronger than most people know; specially those that haven't used one in while or ever and just parotting what they hear......;)

Now 6350 is a strong chip.....he could also drop in a faster replacement for 5800k....but I like playing so I'd go with 6300-6350 to oc :D
 
Davedree said:
MMJ you do make some valid points about seeing how the old trinity chip gets on and in particular the resolution and actual games played.
However with the hardware the op has to hand I'd experiment with the I3
or the A8, but both would hold back a gtx960 quite a bit at 1080p.

The title of the thread though is whats the best budget Amd cpu and in my opinion there are two, the Athlon x4 860k, for fm2+ and the Fx6300 for am3+

The 78lmt usb3 is more than robust enough for an fx6300, I used it on the fx8320 for
months before selling the cpu off to my friend.
An Asus 6+2 digi is my personal minimum spec choice on an fx8320, but don't knock the 78Matx if you haven't tried it.

Bearing in mind if you haven't got a decent cpu cooler then the savings against an intel could be made redundant.
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I have tried it, sold it.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26175716

Whilst ArchAnGeL was inquiring about AMD he was also considering a 4690K until ALXAndy predictably rubbished it and immediately went into his usual AMD sales routine.

Unless ArchAnGeL is going to get a significantly faster upgrade like the 4690K then I don't really see the need to rush out and buy anything when he already has an A8-5600K and motherboard sitting there doing nothing.

Should he want to upgrade I admit the 4690K is initially more expensive but ArchAnGeL would be unlikely to need to upgrade it for many years and although Intel's latest chips "run hot" (as in reported temperature) they do so by design with much less cooling required, less noise and significantly less stress on the motherboard (which in 99% of cases are the first thing to fail in a computer) which is why I tend to recommend quality boards rather than value ones, particularly with demanding CPU's like AMD FX.

Also, ALXAndy only gives a passing mention to the fact that he'll need a mid-high end cooler for an overclocked FX6300 because that goes against his "AMD are cheap" mantra, he'd much rather ArchAnGeL come back later complaining of overheating or an unbearably loud stock fan where he'll then happily recommend that he rush out and buy a £60 H60 or whatever, even if you get the cheapest motherboard once you have factored in the cooler which is much more of a necessity with AMD the FX6300 is not a massive amount cheaper.
 
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