The Taser issue .....

don't think so, officers need the tools to do their jobs adequately and protect the public. How unarmed officers can do that I have no Idea.
 
I can see the benefits to police having tasers, even without pinning the need on terrrrists however I also think it poses a risk of inciting criminals to carry ranged weapons too, a mini arms race almost that the police would never be able to win without straying well beyond public acceptance.
 
Electric charge + explosive vest?

Seriously though I think they should be issued more. Maybe some scrotes won't be so aggressive towards police knowing it can really hurt.

I await Asim's thread "I got tasered".
 
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Kenai said:
I can see the benefits to police having tasers, even without pinning the need on terrrrists however I also think it poses a risk of inciting criminals to carry ranged weapons too, a mini arms race almost that the police would never be able to win without straying well beyond public acceptance.
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so serious criminals in this country aren't armed so far cause the police isn't? Quite frankly there won't be an 'arms race' cause not all crooks will want to carry a gun, notwithstanding the fact that the risk of being shot when carrying a gun is also higher when all cops have sidearms.

I've spent most of my Life in countries with regularly armed police and don't see issues with it.
 
Mynight said:
Electric charge + explosive vest?

Seriously though I think they should be issued more. Maybe some scrotes won't be so aggressive towards police knowing it can really hurt.

I await Asim's thread "I got tasered".
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the kind of carp British coppers take has always surprised me...
 
Front line police officers suffering injury from being attacked is less than 22% of all injuries according to this.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/services/police/statistics.htm

Of those 22%, how many were when they police were actually forced into a fight on their own and unable to defend themselves and not say when cuffing or surprise attacked by another assailant or many other instances. Very few instances is my bet and how is a drunk or drugged up nutt going to respond when confronted with a taser, no different than before and there are units already called when someone is violent on the street. The argument put forward is invalid. According recent figures violent crime is on the decrease thanks to 'CLEVER' police work. (i.e not treating people like criminals and solving the social economic issues instead).

What are the increase terrorism risks that everyday frontline police officers face that requires a taser. How many instances of police being unable to defend against terrorist attacks have their been? My bet ZERO
Also you dont want to shoot a potential bomber with a gun that fires an electric pulse else it risks detonating the bomb.

All this strikes me as, is a stupid Police chief being used a puppet by a bent MP and media company who are being lobbied by Taser (i.e taking backhanders from Taser) in order to make Taser and said MP and media outlet a lot of cash.

Think how much money a contract for Tasers to Police officers is worth...



If you give police Tasers then the response from people who are doing serious crime is going to be to scale up.
You don't end up living in an evil dictatorship overnight, it happens slowly through small changes. Next the police are required to carry guns in certain (high crime) areas and then the criminals upscale and the areas gets worse.
Never mind all the instances of Tasers being lost or stolen and then winding up being used by criminal elements.

'Officers are being threatened!!', best call in a taser drone to sort those crims out. "Taser police drones Cah-ching crooks and keeping YOU SAFE."
 
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Will21st said:
so serious criminals in this country aren't armed so far cause the police isn't?
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I would think that yes, a great many carry knives because that's all they need but if the police all moved to ranged tasers then many would upgrade. This is obviously not universal but I believe it would hold true for enough to make it an issue that doesn't need to be provoked if avoidable.
 
The threat is there, I think its a good idea. Being taser trained its just another option. The best thing you have (as any copper will tell you) is your ability to communicate. However if someone is hell bent on doing you harm when you trying to do your job you want to be the best equipped you can to handle it. I like going home at the end of a shift unharmed.
 
I always think British police sound ridiculous shouting TASER TASER TASER. Nevertheless, it's a damn good tool. I remember watching an episode of Cops where a guy on PCP was tasered multiple times and it didn't have any discernible effect at all. We don't really have that problem in the UK but other than versus a gun are there any circumstances where they prove inadequate?
 
If I were a copper I wouldn't be happy at being ordered to wear a taser - more likelihood of finding myself in trouble with the law.
 
Kenai said:
I would think that yes, a great many carry knives because that's all they need but if the police all moved to ranged tasers then many would upgrade. This is obviously not universal but I believe it would hold true for enough to make it an issue that doesn't need to be provoked if avoidable.
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I think the weaponry that crooks carry has more to do with being equal to the criminal opposition than the police... rivalling drug dealers come to mind, who seem to be involved in most gun crime in this country anyway.

I suppose if the police weren't carrying spray you'd be against upgrading to that as well since then crooks will carry it too?
 
Scuzi said:
We don't really have that problem in the UK but other than versus a gun are there any circumstances where they prove inadequate?
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Iirc theyre pretty useless against people wearing thick clothing. So main use will be in summer time :D.

I've always wondered how being tasered felt. I've had numerous electric shocks but I dont think its the same.
 
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