Nvidia rakes in record revenue.

RavenXXX2 · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:03

Same **** with Intel drip feeding us, blame AMD.

Doogles · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:04

Kaapstad said:
I would say in the last 12 months products wise NVidia have been a huge disappointment.

Their 9 series although good at 1080p can not beat old AMD cards @2160p

The GTX 970 fiasco is a shocker of their tech team taking short cuts.

If I was a teched up investor I would be saying that NVidia are actually skimping on R & R and just sitting on their laurels taking the money. This is a very short sighted approach.

I can see NVidia getting into some serious trouble and losing a lot of market share if they don't come up with some real highend cards (Maxwell Titan does not count as it will be too expensive) in the next 12 months.

I agree with most of what you said there. To get some respect back Nvidia should have said sorry and offered a small amount of cashback/rebate for the GTX 970 even if it was just £50 it would have meant a lot to customers but I suppose that would affect their profit margins :rolleyes:

Boomstick777 said:
I wander if the a market that can be charged $1000 > $2000 for a consumer graphics card will one day eventually turn on them.

The milking is almost out of control, Titan Z was just awful lol.

Hopefully a die shrink (Eventually) will finally give us some progression in performance VS price at all levels, low - mid - high end..

let's hope AMD bring it with the 390X and force Nvidia to start making a bigger leap in performance. It's a lot like David and Goliath though.. Or a midget being held at arms length whiles being punched in the face..

Hopefully the underdog will have it's day though. It would be great for the market..

Or even better, a third player..

If everyone brought AMD next generation then we would be set for later on, or at least give AMD a chance

shankly1985 · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:24

Don't care not a factor I ever think about when buying. Am sure apple make more money than Google doesn't mean there products is any better.

Kaapstad · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:24

Stanners said:
Because there is no competition to push them, so they do not have to.

They are not here to make us happy, they are here to make money and they are. That is business unfortunately.

*Please note I am not defending anything, just pointing out the facts as I see them.

There is competition (not AMD) and NVidia are in great danger of getting caught out.

With the consoles ports that are turning up now that demand loads of VRAM even @1080p it makes even the GTX 980 obsolete. Console ports may or may not be badly written but they are not going to go away.

I also suspect there are technical reasons why we have not seen 8gb 980s. I suspect if NVidia tried it there would be problems similar to some of the ones seen on the 970 but worse.

I think NVidia are actually 12 months behind the game (no pun intended) and could find their range of cards are unsuitable soon for serious gaming.

thesmokingman · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:28

For as little as AMD spends on R&D, they sure as hell get a lot of miles out of what they do R&D. Mantle, HBM, APUs etc etc. Nvidia lost out on their HMC variant, and now have moved to HBM, the superior next gen memory platform. And yea like Kaap hinted, they will be behind in 2015 since AMD will have a years lead on HBM.

setter · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:40

RavenXXX2 said:
Same **** with Intel drip feeding us, blame AMD.

Gotta agree, look at Intel's mid range, the sb 2000k range still hold up pretty well against the current haswell offerings. The performance increase every generation is miniscule.

Stanners · 12 Feb 2015 at 17:53

Kaapstad said:
There is competition (not AMD) and NVidia are in great danger of getting caught out.

With the consoles ports that are turning up now that demand loads of VRAM even @1080p it makes even the GTX 980 obsolete. Console ports may or may not be badly written but they are not going to go away.

I also suspect there are technical reasons why we have not seen 8gb 980s. I suspect if NVidia tried it there would be problems similar to some of the ones seen on the 970 but worse.

I think NVidia are actually 12 months behind the game (no pun intended) and could find their range of cards are unsuitable soon for serious gaming.

I totally disagree, do you honestly think they have done nothing towards their future cards for the last 4 or 5 months since the 970/80 release. Do you think they do not see the same trends as we see. Unfortunately the enthusiast sector is very small, 4k is way off for the everyday user, look at the high street pc outlets, 99% of monitors they sell are 1080.

I think they are sat waiting for AMD to show the up and coming line up and at that point we will see how they react. Nvidia need do nothing at the moment as it would only detract from the 970/80 sales of which I can imagine they are making a fortune. Let's hope AMD does drop a bombshell on them as it would give the sector the kick up the arse it needs.

~>Dg<~ · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:00

more people are down sizing to smaller rigs. so power is very important factor.

people keep saying the 970 gtx fiasco it was a record selling card lol.

also no one knows how dx12 will work properly yet.

RanxZy · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:01

Stanners said:
I think they are sat waiting for AMD to show the up and coming line up and at that point we will see how they react. Nvidia need do nothing at the moment as it would only detract from the 970/80 sales of which I can imagine they are making a fortune. Let's hope AMD does drop a bombshell on them as it would give the sector the kick up the arse it needs.

Yeah NVIDIA have absolutely no reason to release a high performance card while the 980, 970 and 960 are still selling so well and making lots of profit.

Gregster · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:10

thesmokingman said:
For as little as AMD spends on R&D, they sure as hell get a lot of miles out of what they do R&D. Mantle, HBM, APUs etc etc. Nvidia lost out on their HMC variant, and now have moved to HBM, the superior next gen memory platform. And yea like Kaap hinted, they will be behind in 2015 since AMD will have a years lead on HBM.

How do they get a lot of miles out of what they do? They are posting losses each year and this is why they have cut R&D (so less money on future products) and it will only get worse. Why has it taken them over a year to get Freesync out (which still isn't out)? Mantle was supposed to have a public SDK in 2014 but nope, still nothing.

Even with HBM being a fantastic selling point for AMD, I am willing to bet that nVidia somehow manage to get something out that still entices customers.

This is not a dig by the way and just the way I see it. I really want AMD to do well. Competition is great but they seem intent on trolling forums more than sorting the future.

setter · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:18

I wish both vendors would hurry up and announce some info on new cards never mind release them. Gpu market is too stale at present. Hence why i like many others have decided to stick with the golden oldies i have, (though wish they were 6gb models). Theres simply nothing of note currently worth looking at. AMD are getting by on the 290 series, nvidias 900 range whilst, impressive on the efficiency/noise/heat levels arent a worthwhile improvement over the older cards.

Stanners · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:20

setter said:
I wish both vendors would hurry up and announce some info on new cards never mind release them. Gpu market is too stale at present. Hence why i like many others have decided to stick with the golden oldies i have, (though wish they were 6gb models). Theres simply nothing of note currently worth looking at. AMD are getting by on the 290 series, nvidias 900 range whilst, impressive on the efficiency/noise/heat levels arent a worthwhile improvement over the older cards.

+1

Gregster · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:25

Agreed Rob. Even if I don't jump, I still want something new out to at least give something to tease me, AMD or nVidia I am not fussed, just something that is worthwhile please.

setter · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:35

Gregster said:
Agreed Rob. Even if I don't jump, I still want something new out to at least give something to tease me, AMD or nVidia I am not fussed, just something that is worthwhile please.

Yep, something to whet the appetite. Though with tri sli titan id suspect you could get by on those for a good bit to come. Myself, id like a single card solution that is close to 780 sli on the grunt front, but with a vram count of higher than 4gb. As seen with a few recent games released, 4gb is soon gonna be an issue at 1080p let alone 1440, (4k, havin a laugh)

. Im sure some of this is due in part to lazy development. But it doesnt bode well for future titles.

Gregster · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:38

setter said:
Yep, something to whet the appetite. Though with tri sli titan id suspect you could get by on those for a good bit to come. Myself, id like a single card solution that is close to 780 sli on the grunt front, but with a vram count of higher than 4gb. As seen with a few recent games released, 4gb is soon gonna be an issue at 1080p let alone 1440, (4k, havin a laugh). Im sure some of this is due in part to lazy development. But it doesnt bode well for future titles.

If I am honest, I also want a single card. Not that SLI is bad or anything but I am fed up of water cooling and want something a lot smaller case wise. CPU water cooled and nowt else will work.

thesmokingman · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:44

Gregster said:
How do they get a lot of miles out of what they do? They are posting losses each year and this is why they have cut R&D (so less money on future products) and it will only get worse. Why has it taken them over a year to get Freesync out (which still isn't out)? Mantle was supposed to have a public SDK in 2014 but nope, still nothing.

Even with HBM being a fantastic selling point for AMD, I am willing to bet that nVidia somehow manage to get something out that still entices customers.

This is not a dig by the way and just the way I see it. I really want AMD to do well. Competition is great but they seem intent on trolling forums more than sorting the future.

Aren't you mixing financials with developed technology?? Which point are you arguing, neither are directly related to one another.

It's obvious that AMD with all their losses, is the one pushing this industry along with improvements. DirectX has finally got its ass in gear and MS has finally gotten threatened enough with Mantle/Linux/other OS that they are re-igniting DX. Freesync is slow, but it is the standard now, standards take time to implement. Again, all this from a company that was kicked around by Intel and leashed by Nvidia. At every turn Nv and their Gameworks and Twittywhatever work to hold amd gpus back. All this and they still manage to keep up more or less and innovate for gamers.

What have Nvidia done? Innovate with ludicrous pricing models thru the stratosphere? All time highs for gpu pricing? Lie to consumers about their gpu (970), then sell them up the river and deny it all away? They also lost out on HMC, it being dropped in favor of AMD/SK's HMB?

I don't understand your post, to dig at AMD even though you say not? They do get a lot of miles out of the scratch they are able to throw at their R&D.

setter · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:44

I dont mind sli, just that next time i do it ill use reference cards, as the current pair arent ideal in this setup. But i suspect any new card that is close to the performance of 780 sli is gonna be pretty expensive.

Harl0 · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:45

Interesting. Nvidia profit from false claims.

Very interesting.

Cerelia · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:50

For those commenting on AMD...

http://www.vrworld.com/2015/02/09/amds-real-china-play-strategic-investment/

thesmokingman · 12 Feb 2015 at 18:51

Whoa that's a lot of scratch man!