Frozen ready meals are full of garbage with ingredients that, by design, get passed the standard to be classed as "food" by the skin of the their teeth. Especially that of the cheaper brands.
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Frozen ready meals are full of garbage with ingredients that, by design, get passed the standard to be classed as "food" by the skin of the their teeth. Especially that of the cheaper brands.
1.9 million unemployed. I'm not convinced there're that many McJobs to go around.
Do you think otherwise?
A cheeseburger has 303 calories which is only around 60% of the lasagne portion.
I agree that the poor living off takeaways could afford to eat a modestly healthy & balanced diet, but the poorest are not living off those - it's low quality cheap branded oven food (which really is much cheaper).
Also, to eat a well balanced mix of fresh vegetables & meats with any decent flavour is significantly more expensive than cheap crap but satiating own brand oven food.
Then you need to factor in eating pesticide ridden cheap tasteless vegetables compared to organic fresh ones. While frozen vegetables are an option, they do taste terrible comparatively & it's easier to see why some opt for the better tasting but unhealthy option when the healthy option within their price range. Then you have to factor in that in many cases peoples eating habits are heavily influenced during early childhood (which the child has no real control over).
To be fair, all this is immaterial to the key criticisms of these plans as we are not currently residing in a jobs surplus. Yes there are always 'some jobs around' but there are never 1.9 million jobs around, meaning a number just circle in & out of employment.
I'm fortunate, I had good parents who taught me a number of skills which have enabled me to do reasonably well in life in a specialist field, on-top of that I had a childhood free of abuse & suffer no alignments which would prevent me to succeed. I either lacked the genetic propensity or the misfortune to have the environmental triggers occur to gain the traits common to leading to long term unemployment.
How hard I work is irrelevant, as I didn't pick in advance the ability to work hard. This is why I object to strongly to ideological changes so based upon the 'self-made man' fallacy - ie, pretty much Conservationism in a nut shell - it's factually flawed & inconsistent with the world we actually reside within.
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There's already similar schemes in place, but they are all a sham, as they are outsourced to "training and careers" companies, who get paid by the government, they make loads of dosh but actually give nothing in return.
My sister in law works in a care home. There are no entry requirements for that at all (barring violent criminal records). It's minimum wage and terrible hours.
I'm not trying to assert there isn't an employment problem, no.
I do think otherwise to lemonade's claims, though. I see graduates complaining there are no jobs all the time, when what they really mean is there are no vacancies in the kind of job they want.
I'm not trying to assert there isn't an employment problem, no.
I do think otherwise to lemonade's claims, though. I see graduates complaining there are no jobs all the time, when what they really mean is there are no vacancies in the kind of job they want.
1.9 million unemployed, mate. Vacancies happen, but there are a **** ton of applicants.
Why would an employer hire a graduate for an oversubscribed minimum wage job with no prospects? The graduate would leave in no time after not being at all invested in the job. There are more suitable applicants.
I guess it will depend job by job, but I've seen so many that required certain NVQ's or an X amount years of experience.
Personally i think a care job should require some form of training because of the nature of the job, you need to know what your doing, most 18-21yo cant even look after themselves, let alone take care of a 90yo or a person with mental health or disabilities.
3% unemployment. We're not talking half of the population. That number also includes those unable to work, not just those unable to find work. It also includes those who can't be arsed to find work.
At that kind of level, employers will employ whoever is willing to work.
I'm not trying to assert there isn't an employment problem, no.
I do think otherwise to lemonade's claims, though. I see graduates complaining there are no jobs all the time, when what they really mean is there are no vacancies in the kind of job they want.
Well yes, often that is the case, if your going to a degree in a certain field, then ultimately your going to be seeking a job in that field. But in my case, I was applying for anything, but I wouldn't even get past the application stages for jobs at Tesco, Waitrose etc. Often they deem people with higher education and qualifications as over-skilled and uncommitted, which they are partly right, because I would leave if I got a job in my field!
So I see rather than climbing down off your soapbox you merely bent down a bit so you could hear but couldn't be bothered what happened to the lower orders anyway.
Oh I agree. But if you are in long term unemployment it is massively different to being out of work on the short term. As you said people will take their turn to be unemployed. But if you are consistantly being left unemployed wave after wave, peak/trough after peak/trough then the individual needs to start looking at themselves.
Which is a key point.
If I became unemployed for any reason I'd have difficulty getting 'any job' - all my experience is within a technical specialist field, I can't omit all my work experience from my CV (as they would just assume I'd been in prison). Including my actual experience would show instantly that it was nothing more than a filling job & may exclude me from the selection criteria.
Mate the age group we're talking about get 50 odd quid they don't buy kfc.
Before I bought my flat I was flatsharing in North London, the small room we sublet was generally taken up for short periods by Aussie backpackers, Foreign Students who wanted a place quickly - they'd tend to come over here without a job and need accommodation quickly with the idea that they'd get a job within a week or two... surprisingly enough they all got jobs within a week or two - granted for the Students it was generally part time bar work but for both of the Aussies they got temp jobs in offices pretty rapidly.
Terrible jobs too, I hate people who make money owning care homes ripping off the govt, the people being "cared" for and their sons and daughters and the people they fool into working for them.
But some people are always going to be the worst at interviews, have the worst qualifications, the least attractive (this statistically goes against people very strongly in interviews) or have the least experience.
It doesn't take long for a person with some bad luck to go from bottom of the pile to unemployable. I'm not saying for a second we should just leave people on the scrap heap of life, not contributing or anything.
Just we should use rational evidenced based tactics to determine the best method of resolving these social problems. The traditional 'stick' approach doesn't work (for one you can put punitive measures on people till the cows come home, but if there are not enough jobs it's a massive waste of time & the taxpayers money to attempt to fix it without addressing the actual causes).
If this was any other field, the first thing a group does is; understand the problem -> Understanding the specifics -> Create a solution -> Test the solution -> Evaluate the solution -> repeat (until a tested solution is found) -> Deploy a solution.
In politics it tends to be - find a problem -> Deploy a solution.
This is insane.
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I've been told by multiple companies that they wont hire me because I wont stick around for long. I don't blame them the are completely right but it does happen! Im giving it another couple months then of to warmer climates and back to work in the dive industry for a bit as ive no shortage of job offers, just not really a long term career plan!
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A graduate is not a student though. They have their qualification and are applying for a job that they will leave asap which means more time and money spent hiring. The student isn't going to leave any time soon.