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Yes a serious thread! (and not about them holding everyone up :p )

I know we have a couple of farmers on these boards and other who work with tractors on a daily basis.


Looking to purchase something for our Livestock farm.

100HP with a loader for daily duties like cleaning out sheds and feeding.

Any reccomendations? Tempted by a Kubota M9960, as we can have one for around 32k new with all the tricks.

I'm warey though as they do not seem well established in this area of the market.

From what I have seen of an older model (3years old) it looked light and small on the rear, also looked a bit flimsy and basic/old inside.

Quite like the MF 5455 with a sloping bonnet, but a 3 year old one with 2000 hours on the clock is 5k dearer than a brand new kubota!
 
wilber said:
Quite like the MF 5455 with a sloping bonnet, but a 3 year old one with 2000 hours on the clock is 5k dearer than a brand new kubota!
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I'm no farmer, but there is a damn good reason for that! You'd be best to stick with a big name brand as it'll most likely be a lot more solid and a better machine that some random Jap brand...
 
InvaderGIR said:
I'm no farmer, but there is a damn good reason for that! You'd be best to stick with a big name brand as it'll most likely be a lot more solid and a better machine that some random Jap brand...
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Kubota are not some random Jap brand, and are quite popular over in the states.
The smaller (sub 70hp) tractors go toe to toe with john deere in the states.

They do a huge amount of Plant machinery and in that market produce very good equipment.
 
Ok...random for the UK, better? :p Never heard of them and only ever seen JD, MF, Ford, CAT etc. when living in the countryside for 25 years. ;)

I'm all for saving money but in this instance it seems most sensible to buy something that's proven and has a strong backbone / customer base / dealer network to support should there be anything wrong. The last thing you want is for something to break on it and leave you waiting ages for parts / repair due to them having a relatively small footing in the UK.
 
Don't buy a Kubota! I know of no farmers round here who use them :eek:

The modern Massey Fergusons are quite good, John Deeres are overpriced for what you get IMO, and McCormicks are good if you want a decent tractor without a daft aray of overpriced extras.

We run a McCormick CX105 here as our daily loader tractor, it has served us well. The clutch needs calibrating from time to time, but they've sorted that with the new range of Tractors, the CX105 is no longer available new, I think the new Range is the X series.
 
I know what your saying about the kubota, saying that though we where told the same thing about the lamborghini we bought and she is still running well! :)

I've notice a lot more hill farmers taking them up around Brecon/Radnorshire. I was also talking to a 2nd hand dealer and was suprised how he much he praised them, due to reliabilty.

Who's your Dealer Taken as your not to far from me?

Always dealt with RVW Pugh's Churchstoke for our tack over the years.
 
I used to sell tractors but I've not been near one for about 8 years now.

Kubota stuff was regarded as basic and reliable but at the smaller end of the market for grounds maintenance type uses - 100HP is a proper tractor and isn't really their core market.

MF tended to be a very basic base spec and you needed a lot of extras to get anything usable.

I always liked New Holland tractors, there's not as much difference between them and JD as the JD marketing department would have customers believe and they are generally a bit cheaper.

JD certainly have the best marketing in the UK - flood the agricultural colleges with their equipment and watch all those 16 year olds buy their stuff forever more.

I'd recommend something like this http://www.paulbreretonltd.co.uk/product/tractors/new-holland-t5060-cw-nh-stoll-tl-740-loader/
 
wilber said:
I know what your saying about the kubota, saying that though we where told the same thing about the lamborghini we bought and she is still running well! :)

I've notice a lot more hill farmers taking them up around Brecon/Radnorshire. I was also talking to a 2nd hand dealer and was suprised how he much he praised them, due to reliabilty.

Who's your Dealer Taken as your not to far from me?

Always dealt with RVW Pugh's Churchstoke for our tack over the years.
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HJR Agri at Oswestry, they're a good firm.
 
Kubota is more suited to the groundsman at the golf course.


Massey Fergusons and John Deeres is what farming friends and family use, with each of them just having a particular brand loyalty to one or the other.
 
TaKeN said:
HJR Agri at Oswestry, they're a good firm.
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I'll give them a call and see what they have.

PMKeates said:
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:p

Westyfield2 said:
Kubota is more suited to the groundsman at the golf course.


Massey Fergusons and John Deeres is what farming friends and family use, with each of them just having a particular brand loyalty to one or the other.
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Indeed. The tractor arm of the business has been focussed around groundman/golf course, however the last 12-18 month have seen Kubota branch out into the mainstream agricultural market. And as such have released a new range of equipment completly focused on this area of the market. The new M7 range is completely focused on large arable use due to the sheer size of the monster. :)

Brand loyalty is pretty ingrained into the UK farmer and change is not appreciated. My old chap has finally seen that he needs a decent tractor on the home farm, but put anything infront of him with an LCD screen onboard and he scrunches his nose up and goes "bah its got one of those computer things" :D:D

Anyways I've asked the local Kubota dealer to give us a machine on demo, waiting for someone to give me a call back.
 
blueboy2001 said:
JD certainly have the best marketing in the UK - flood the agricultural colleges with their equipment and watch all those 16 year olds buy their stuff forever more.
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We were flooded with New Holland if anything :) the JD's we had were ancient and MF's pretty much prehistoric!

Though the other students from a more farming backgrounds were JD through and through!
 
You aint been real farming if you dont have a Massey 135 with knackered brakes and use a scraper to stop... They also must have the roll bar/cab and exhaust removed/shortened to get into the small sheds :D
 
We have an absolutely hammered leyland 252 instead, i should get a picture. :p

Neighbours used to have a 135 till about 8 years ago!
 
You're not giving much info here about scale of feeding etc. There's a little Kubota on the smallholding which has been brilliant for years, only change was a widening of rear wheelbase and ballast in the rear tyres since a lot of the land is on a steep slope.

I feel the OP lacks details!
 
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