Britain is leading the charge against basic human rights says Amnesty International

mmj_uk · 25 Feb 2015 at 19:47

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...sic-human-rights-amnesty-claims-10067989.html

Increased surveillance in Britain, along with the reduction of access to justice, have contributed to one of the worst assaults on human rights in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall, according to a damning assessment by Amnesty International.

In its annual State of the World’s Human Rights report published today, Amnesty says the Coalition had rushed through legislation such as anti-terror measures and invasive surveillance powers without adequate time for parliamentary debate.

Is anybody here actually surprised? if so what rock have you been living under?

The scary thing for me is what the Tory government will do once they've wormed their way out of the European Court of Human Rights, absolutely terrifying after seeing how they've treated the disabled, poor and generally most vulnerable people in society during this past term.

jsmoke · 25 Feb 2015 at 19:55

If you've nothing to hide then you've nothing to particular fear.

Tefal · 25 Feb 2015 at 19:57

really? countries performing beheading and mutilation as punishment are less against human rights than the uk? really?

Why is it every organization like amnesty rapidly ends up a joke.

Hades · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:00

Tefal said:
really? countries performing beheading and mutilation as punishment are less against human rights than the uk? really?

Why is it every organization like amnesty rapidly ends up a joke.

The quote above from amnesty specifically mentions the worst in Europe, not the world.

spoffle · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:01

jsmoke said:
If you've nothing to hide then you've nothing to particular fear.

Oh lawd not this mouth breathing nonsense again. This is such a ridiculous fallacy.

[TW]Fox · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:01

'Reduction of access to justice' - presumably they are talking about legal aid?

So not paying somebodies legal bills is an 'assault of human rights'?

Tefal · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:02

Hades said:
The quote above from amnesty specifically mentions the worst in Europe, not the world.

in its

State of the World’s Human Rights report

and apparently we should have had a few more wars to make the world better

The global report also condemns world leaders for failing to intervene in conflicts such as Syria, Gaza and Ukraine, in what it calls a “catastrophic year” for millions of people caught up in violence.

Amnesty called on the UN Security Council to renounce its veto power – wielded solely by the five permanent members, Britain, China, France, Russia and the US – to make it easier for peacekeeping forces to be deployed to prevent genocide or mass atrocities.

Hades · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:03

Tefal said:
in its

Yes I'm sure they talk about many regions of the world in their state of the world report. The quote refers to the loss of human rights in Europe.

dowie · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:10

I can't say I'm losing a lot of sleep over it

cheesyboy · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:10

[TW]Fox;27680637 said:
'Reduction of access to justice' - presumably they are talking about legal aid?

So not paying somebodies legal bills is an 'assault of human rights'?

How is it not?

[TW]Fox · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:13

cheesyboy said:
How is it not?

Free lawyers is a 'human right'? Really?

Monkeynut · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:17

[TW]Fox;27680686 said:
Free lawyers is a 'human right'? Really?

Legal representation for everyone is pretty important...

Destination · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:17

Hades said:
The quote above from amnesty specifically mentions the worst in Europe, not the world.

So the active war in Ukraine doesn't count?

me227 · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:17

I'd imagine Belarus is one of the worst for Human Rights in Europe.

arknor · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:18

The right to a fair trial? it's hardly fair if one side is lawyered up and the other can't afford one.

it's why you get "just plead guilty for the lesser sentence" and people getting tricked into confessions

cheesyboy · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:19

[TW]Fox;27680686 said:
Free lawyers is a 'human right'? Really?

Access to legal council, given the requirement of professional knowledge in judicial representation, certainly is tied in with the human right of access to justice. And lawyers charge fees commensurate with their professional standing. Take away access to free legal council, and you take away access to justice for many people.

How can you contemplate otherwise?

mjt · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:19

Go watch CitizenFour.

*dons tinfoil hat*

Destination · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:20

OP said:
have contributed to one of the worst assaults on human rights in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall

I don't recall the FALL of the Berlin Wall being an assault on human rights, well played Amnesty.
I loved the picture the other day with the 5 things in the world you can be executed for committing a crime, specifically all the SE Asia countries and their death to drug traffickers laws. Good.
Glad they stick to them.

Destination · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:23

cheesyboy said:
Access to legal council, given the requirement of professional knowledge in judicial representation, certainly is tied in with the human right of access to justice. And lawyers charge fees commensurate with their professional standing. Take away access to free legal council, and you take away access to justice for many people.

How can you contemplate otherwise?

Because as a taxpayer I can't afford to pay for my own legal representation and in my taxes afford to ay for those who don't pay taxes also? Where is my right to not have my own money taken from me and wasted on criminals? Three strikes and you're soyulent green anyone? Cost saving would be immense, and think of all the protein, more protein than Mo Farrah could shake a quorn mince curry at.

cheesyboy · 25 Feb 2015 at 20:25

Hikari Kisugi said:
I don't recall the FALL of the Berlin Wall being an assault on human rights, well played Amnesty.
I loved the picture the other day with the 5 things in the world you can be executed for committing a crime, specifically all the SE Asia countries and their death to drug traffickers laws. Good.
Glad they stick to them.

I think they used the falling of the wall as a watershed, rather than an example :rolleyes: