Maybe I do come across to you as infantile. However, I've learned that a tone of recalcitrant sarcasm is an effective means of dealing with some of the absurdity that gets thrown my way. Many people have meretricious and vapid arguments and it's tiresome addressing them repeatedly, so I either ignore them or post like a 3 year old, in your opinion.
Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.
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Maybe I do come across to you as infantile. However, I've learned that a tone of recalcitrant sarcasm is an effective means of dealing with some of the absurdity that gets thrown my way. Many people have meretricious and vapid arguments and it's tiresome addressing them repeatedly, so I either ignore them or post like a 3 year old, in your opinion.
Yes I have contempt for Arab's and Muslims. I don't deny it. I wouldn't say hate, that's a bit strong, but contempt, certainly. I also have contempt for ultra orthodox Jews too. So as you can see, I'm very fair when it comes to dishing out contempt.
Hardly, because you just said you find all Arabs and Muslims contemptible (presumably based on the fact of their race (Culture) and religion), yet only reserve that contempt for a very specific group of Jews. Sounds like you are a self confessed bigot.
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The creation of the Jewish state was the biggest **** up the west ever did.
Allowing the Jewish state to take territory that is no different to Putin and the Crimea yet we all turn a blind eye to that as well.
As i see it they deserve everything that comes there way without the UK getting involved as Netanyhau is nutter.
Allowing the Jewish state to take territory that is no different to Putin and the Crimea yet we all turn a blind eye to that as well.
As i see it they deserve everything that comes there way without the UK getting involved as Netanyhau is nutter.
Whilst I agree with your main point - about how Israel is one of the biggest balls ups in modern history. I don't quite think saying 'they deserve everything that comes their way' is a very good way of looking at the situation seeing as Israel effectively acted as a home for many of the Jewish refugees from world war 2. Millions of Jews were executed and the lucky survivors that ended up in Israel do not 'deserve' everything that comes their way (obviously meaning their destruction). I agree that they push their luck a bit too far though and they need to be reigned in.
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I find this to be true of a lot of people who either haven't travelled outside of the UK, or those only interested in places like Lanzagrotty etc...
Everyone I've met that has spent some time in the Middle East come back with the same thing. Amazing culture, warm friendly people, richness of spirit and hugely civilised and intelligent. I'm a massive fan of the ME. Indeed have spent a fair bit of time there - whilst it isn't without its problems (like all countries have) it's also an incredible place to be.
Yes there are a minority of people who cause a big stir, but then look at the stir places like America do to the world, it's no different, power leads to discontent somewhere else in the world.
Sorry Freefaller, I'll have to reply to your post as you quoted Castiel who is on my ignore list.
Anyway, I don't see myself as a bigot just because I have contempt for Muslims, Jews or Christians. I find all religion contemptible because of the harm it causes. It's not bigotry, it's a valid position supported by evidence. I find Arab culture contemptible because of the way it subjugates minorities, women, gays, apostates, atheists, other religions and restricts free speech. Again, not bigotry, simply a position based on the evidence.
At least this lad is open about his antisemitism, unlike other people in this thread.
Netanyahu greatly exagerates the threat posed by Iran but he doesn't do it because he's a nutcase, he does it because the elections are around the corner, the country's economy is suffering and he's not doing well in polls. So, like other "patriots" with hawkish views, he's trying to shift the focus from Israel's internal affairs, to the potential outside threats, such as Iran.
Push there luck ?
I am sorry, while they may have been persecuted for X amount of years throughout the world (There is a reason for this, they are not very likeable and zealots) You would think they would have learned a lesson of how bad it is to be on the end of a stick being prodded time and time yet. Yet all we see is exactly the same thing except this time they are prodding the stick.
While the holocaust was bad the same amount if not more of Russians went "missing" and yet this is also a forgotten story. But we are in modern times where we record things better and seemingly more enlightened.
I like many others have nothing but contempt for Jews they are the biggest hypocrites in living memory and then some. Yet if you openly criticise there stance you are instantly decreed a idiot, ignorant, racist, anti semantic and a horrible human being.
I am sorry, while they may have been persecuted for X amount of years throughout the world (There is a reason for this, they are not very likeable and zealots) You would think they would have learned a lesson of how bad it is to be on the end of a stick being prodded time and time yet. Yet all we see is exactly the same thing except this time they are prodding the stick.
While the holocaust was bad the same amount if not more of Russians went "missing" and yet this is also a forgotten story. But we are in modern times where we record things better and seemingly more enlightened.
I like many others have nothing but contempt for Jews they are the biggest hypocrites in living memory and then some. Yet if you openly criticise there stance you are instantly decreed a idiot, ignorant, racist, anti semantic and a horrible human being.
Tarring an entire race as 'not very likeable' and 'zealots' is bigotry. Can't you see this ? Many Jews are cultural Jews, they are atheists. How can an atheist be a zealot ? Ever seen Bill Maher ? Probably one of America's most famous atheists. He's half Jewish. Larry David, creator of Curb Your Enthusiasm and Seinfeld is a cultural Jew and non believer. Many Jews have a secular stance. So when people like you tar them all as zealots and unlikeable, I feel dismayed.
I don't know why you are comparing Russian casualties to Jewish ones. It has nothing to do with anything. Also in your previous post comparing the formation of Israel to the Russians annexing Crimea is bizarre.... Russia is the largest country on earth with a reasonably low population for it's size.... They have no need to annex anything. Comparing Russian land grabbing greed to housing Jewish refugees is laughable (even though I still disagree with the formation of Israel). Please can you give some examples of the outrageous hypocrisies that all of the Jews are accountable for? Also, stating the reason they have been persecuted for x years is because they not very likeable zealots shows a complete ignorance of history.
Finding an entire ethnic group contemptible is by definition bigotry. Being an Arab isn't a religion. You even say yourself that tarring an entire race (ethnic group) Is bigotry and yet this is exactly what you admit to doing. And just because someone is an atheist doesn't preclude them from being a zealot, anyone can be zealous about something, whether it's religion, politics, or whatever....ironically given the way you expressed it, Zealots originally (where we get the term) were in fact Jewish.
Absolutely. People are people the world over. To find an entire people contemptible just because of their ethnicity is bigotry in its basest form, not to mention the contradictions being used here, on one had he is calling SPG and others a bigot for tarring all Jews the same, yet on the other hand that is exactly what he does with Arabs. I think sliver is a very confused young man.
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But that's the thing, not all Arab culture is the same. You know there are Christian Arabs (Maronites for example) as well as very moderate Muslims (i.e. not particularly strongly religious). Only a very small part of Arabs behave in the way you mention - not unlike people in the West or the Far East. It's not Arabs, it is people - people behave badly all over the world - you seem to have an unfair typecast stuck in your head.
Heck, look at Mediterranean culture, a lot of it is based around spirituality and a religious pretext. Italy, Greece both good examples, a lot of it is based through just being part of the soul and blood of their upbringing, yet many don't actively behave in a religious way, but their language and behaviour is based around the principles of their culture which was based on some form of faith. Even English culture has been influenced by it.
Does that mean they are all religious kooks? Of course not. Does it matter? Of course not. Is your distrust and contempt based on ignorance? I'd say probably.
Let me clarify. I'm not saying ALL Arabs are 'X' or ALL Muslims are 'X'. I understand that within every population there is variety. What I find contemptible are the negative effects of religion, while appreciating the positive, and the cultural norms found in Arab countries that don't sit right with me as a Westerner who values free speech and equality for all under the law.
No. nothing to do with distrust or ignorance. More to do with an epistemic understanding of reality.
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In your view.
Yes. You have your view I have mine. Postman Pat has his. Now lets all get together and party like it's 1999.
