Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

[dirtychinchilla]

Iran aren't a threat to anything other than our Western ideology. As far as I can tell, they just want to do their own thing without other people inflicting themselves upon them.

The idea that Israel should be trusted with nuclear weapons over Iran is completely laughable. Israel have proven time and time again how aggressive they are, and then hide behind the blanket of anti-semitism. Critics of Israel like myself couldn't care less who the people are, we care about their actions, and it is, in particular, the actions of their government as opposed to the state religion or necessarily the citizens of Israel. The fact that they can hold such an unprovoked and unnecessary war against Palestine, whilst being backed by America, is just ridiculous.

Palestine are in no way a threat to Israel, and if Israel just left them alone and stopped poaching the Palestinian land, the threat from Palestine would stop. Although this won't happen for a long time, the ending apartheid regime Israel carries out towards Muslims in Israel would be a good step towards it.

As Castiel so concisely said, I'd be more worried about Netanyahu. He's comparable with Hitler, in my opinion. So, go Iran!

 

[lemonade]

So based on this logic, Israel are the good guys then?

The good guys that kill journalists, ban films, assassinate kids, lock up thousands of men and kids without charge, dont let women divorce etc.

 

[anything I don't mind]

As much as i dislike islamic regimes/countries i have to admit that iran is less of a threat than most countries.

 

[ubersonic]

Recently in France several Jews and a Muslim were murdered in cold blood by nutjob terrorists.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Castiel]

Yeah, the one where you went off on one about Jewish extremists, yeah, that's the one.

The one where I gave very specific data from the European law enforcement and anti-terror units supporting the fact that extremism isn't confined to religious ideologies and that in Europe the majority of terrorism is related to geopolitical (largely separatist) reasons, and that while it is important to tackle extremism is all it forms, the everyday guy on the street is more likely to be impacted by other more mundane things such as the economic crisis or political shenanigans Amongst other things....whilst you were busy blaming Muslims for everything...that one?

 

[lemonade]

Posting that video is simply posting that video. Does that mean I'm a Jew ? No, I'm an theist. Does it mean I'm a Muslim ? No, I'm an atheist.

I posted that video, because it shines a light on the Jewish/Palestine conflict. It shows the complete disregard that Palestinians have for the most holy site in Judaism. I feel this is important because before any kind of peace can be achieved between Israel and Palestine, there needs to be a respect for each other between them. The Jews need to treat Palestinians as equals and with respect to their beliefs and vice-versa.

Again you make no sense, the video was just childish, it showed kids playing football outside a mosque lol, whereas Israeli's shoot, burn and have cause destruction to the mosque. So what was the point? It was just a propaganda video for support of rebuilding King solomons temple over a mosque.

A bit odd for an irreligious person to be supporting religious doctrine.

 

[Will21st]

So based on this logic, Israel are the good guys then?

well, take a look at the wonderful governments that surround it, then answer your own question.

 

[lemonade]

Fixed it for you.

and atheists and possibly even christian.

 

[Will21st]

The one where I gave very specific data supporting the fact that extremism isn't confined to religious ideologies and that in Europe the majority of terrorism is related to geopolitical reasons, and that while it is important to tackle extremism is all it firms, the everyday guy on the street is more likely to be impacted by other more mundane things such as the economic crisis or political shenanigans Amongst other things....whilst you were busy blaming Muslims for everything...that one?

Oh Boy, I blamed muslims for everything, did I?

Anyway, yes the one where you downplayed Muslim terrorism and extremism, as you described in your above post.

 

[spoffle]

well, take a look at the wonderful governments that surround it, then answer your own question.

Why don't you answer it instead of trying to obfuscate your response?

 

[spoffle]

Oh Boy, I blamed muslims for everything, did I?

Anyway, yes the one where you downplayed Muslim terrorism and extremism, as you described in your above post.

As I said before, rejecting reality and substituting your own.

The only reason you see it as downplaying is because they're not responding in the mouth foaming way you seem to think is appropriate.

 

[Castiel]

Oh Boy, I blamed muslims for everything, did I?

Anyway, yes the one where you downplayed Muslim terrorism and extremism, as you described in your above post.

That's not downplaying anything, what you are doing is inflating the danger beyond what the enforcement agencies data and experts opinions support. Ignoring everything else and focusing on one specific type of extremism simply because it relates to a particular religion who may not agree with seems rather short-sighted.

 

[Will21st]

Why don't you answer it instead of trying to obfuscate your response?

Define good guys? I support Israel, simple as. You know, that evil Democracy in the midst of your wonderful Islamic theocracies.

As I said before, rejecting reality and substituting your own.

The only reason you see it as downplaying is because they're not responding in the mouth foaming way you seem to think is appropriate.

Nope, it's downplaying because it's mainly nonsense. The only rejection of reality going on around here is your limitless understand for terrorism and Islamic aggression.

 

[Castiel]

Define good guys? I support Israel, simple as. You know, that evil Democracy in the midst of your wonderful Islamic theocracies.

I support Israel also, I support its right to exist as a secular, democratic state offering equal rights to all it citizens regardless of religion/ethnicity or status. However I do not support Zionism or expansionism, nor I do support Likud and its foreign and domestic policies regarding the Palestinian issue or how it treats its Arab Israeli population in some areas, such as East Jerusalem.

Nope, it's downplaying because it's mainly nonsense. The only rejection of reality going on around here is your limitless understand for terrorism and Islamic aggression.

So pretty much every law enforcement agency and political and religious think tank is talking mainly nonsense, just because you are living in fear.

 

[Will21st]

That's not downplaying anything, what you are doing is inflating the danger beyond what the enforcement agencies data and experts opinions support. Ignoring everything else and focusing on one specific type of extremism simply because it relates to a particular religion who may not agree with seems rather short-sighted.

Really, that's why our security services are so vigilant and on high alert, correct...

anyway, get back to your Israel bashing, evil as they are and all...

meanwhile, in wonderful Islam La-La Land:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-man-building-bloodthirsty-crowds-Syria.html

http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/02/isis-tells-mother-on-rescue-mission-youve-just-eaten-your-son-5084957/

 

[ubersonic]

So pretty much every law enforcement agency and political and religious think tank is talking mainly nonsense, just because you are living in fear.

Buuuuuurn!

 

[Will21st]

I support Israel also, I support its right to exist as a secular, democratic state offering equal rights to all it citizens regardless of religion/ethnicity or status. However I do not support Zionism or expansionism, nor I do support Likud and its foreign and domestic policies regarding the Palestinian issue or how it treats its Arab Israeli population in some areas, such as East Jerusalem.

good for you.

So pretty much every law enforcement agency and political and religious think tank is talking mainly nonsense, just because you are living in fear.

My dear Castiel, I was referring to you and your downplaying nonsense. I don't live in fear, I've seen too much to have any left.

 

[Castiel]

Really, that's why our security services are so vigilant and on high alert, correct...

For all kinds of extremism and terrorism...as the data I gave shows, the majority of which comes from internal domestic terrorism (dependant upon the European country) not simply Islamic terrorism.

anyway, get back to your Israel bashing,

show me where I have been Israel bashing?

 

[Castiel]

My dear Castiel, I was referring to you and your downplaying nonsense. I don't live in fear, I've seen too much to have any left.

I have also, however I haven't lost my objectivity as a result.

 

[ubersonic]

anyway, get back to your Israel bashing, evil as they are and all...

meanwhile, in wonderful Islam La-La Land

Just because Israel were the good guys in the holocaust does not make them the good guys in every single situation imaginable. If Israel declared war on Ireland and started nuking them because they randomly decided the potato was anti-semitic would Ireland be the bad guys because Israel was involved? No of course not.

Iran is not a very good place to live, Israel is not a bad place, but currently Israel are being the bad guys and Iran are not.