News: Confusing Courts - Divorce

If we're going to debate marriage then I think that all too often people get married too quickly and too young. How often do you look back on yourself 10 years ago and think "well i really knew what I was doing back then"
I believe you need to live with somebody a decent amount of years and you need to be in your late 20's at least before you can give it a go. Thats not to say its not going to work for you if you don't but it certainly makes the odds better.
Getting married is too easy.
 
manic_man said:
As somebody about to get married in a totally non-religious capacity and of my own free will with little to no social pressure felt I can honestly say the following:

The basic premise of marriage as a way to show your devotion and love for another is alive and well, if anything I personally feel marriage for this reason has more meaning than those who do it simply because their life-doctrines require it...

We won't be signing any pre-nuptial agreement (partly because my other half is a lawyer and can cite less divorce cases where a pre-nup has actually counted in the UK courts than I have fingers) and because I trust her as evidently she does me. If in the future this trust is found to be misplace or we actually aren't as suited to living together for life as I currently think then so be it. I would rather take the "risk" that this won't be the case than never even try.

If you have found that other person who you feel completely comfortable sharing everything about you and your life with and you have no intention of ever looking elsewhere then what is wrong with demonstrating this devotion? If you are with somebody that doesn't fit the above and still considering marriage then that's just silly and more fool that person!
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Well congrats and i hope things work out :p

You sir deserve a salute for marrying a lawyer.... you have brass balls my son :eek:

*Salute* sah!
 
peige said:
If we're going to debate marriage then I think that all too often people get married too quickly and too young. How often do you look back on yourself 10 years ago and think "well i really knew what I was doing back then"
I believe you need to live with somebody a decent amount of years and you need to be in your late 20's at least before you can give it a go. Thats not to say its not going to work for you if you don't but it certainly makes the odds better.
Getting married is too easy.
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I'd certainly agree with this statement and it probably harps back to my comments about people doing it because it is expected of them and not because they want to.

I've never felt like I had to get married, in fact in my early and mid twenties I was positive I wouldn't. We are in our late 20s/early 30s, have no kids and have been together for over 5 years now. We're just doing it because we want to.

I suppose I just felt compelled to speak out for marriage a bit in a thread where it was being completely demonised. Saying that I may just be all "loved up" at the minute and I might be back in a few years to revisit this thread lol (don;t think so though otherwise I wouldn't be doing it!)

Anyway... she earns more than I do as a lowly scientist heh
 
If he didnt contribute maintenance then he is still due to but it has a limit despite income. If awarded anything over that it really makes a mockery of the 'equality' the country claims to have. Silly thing is, him as a millionaire, her on benefits if they went to court today both asking for custody its still more likely to be awarded to her even if she cant financially support the child by herself whereas he could.
 
Haggisman said:
Do you define your marriage by a piece of paper or the relationship?

If it's the latter, then what difference does marriage actually make?

If it's the former, then I'd be inclined to think that your marriage is one of the bad ones.
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Spot the bloke who can't keep hold of a woman :D
 
Matrimony is a gesture of commitment between partners. It evolved into a legal thing (and religious thing) by popular demand, it's not other way round.

It would take a special kind of idiot, or someone with a large chip on their shoulder, to not see the gesture of affection it demonstrates to not only make a promise to remain committed, but to legally instil a kind of guarantee into that promise as well. The religion thing came from when everyone was god fearing, so making this promise in a religious manner just added more emphasis to it.

That and it's not compulsory by any stretch of the imagination, particularly with modern laws affording the same protection to common-law partners.
 
I think if marriage is going to have any serious meaning in the event of a divorce then close attention should be paid for the reason of divorce - if it's evidenced that lets say - the women has an affair and decides she want to divorce for her new lover then she should accept she doesn't get a bean of her husbands money and any contribution made towards the children should be voluntary. I wonder how many marriages would be saved in this way - I thing marriage is a commitment that is too easy to walk away from and the burnden often falls on the father - I didn't get married but the she got pregnant and had a kid and got maintenance of me £268 /mo then she got married and is working and now she is still entitled to my wages - how can this be right - she married another man ffs.
 
Basically if you make money don't marry a western women?

One of the boys I completed my apprenticeship, got married at 20 "had" a child, only to find out his misses had cheated on him, one quick dna test and a divorce later and he lost his house and the CSA wanted £1000 a month for the privilege of raising someone else's son.
He's now working in Saudi earning £130k a year non-taxed and pays the cow bugger all. She's fuming, tried to get his bank to issue her a card as his "wife".


moral of the story why pay for the cow, when you can get the milk for free
 
Dj_Jestar said:
What is with this stupid trend of saying "a women" ?

Woman is the singular form, women the plural.
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Incorrect, if mumsnet has teached me anything other than grouping angry middle aged females together creates a fertile environment for looneys and crackpots. It's that the correct term is womyn, as women dont seem to like men in them.
 
Castiel said:
Sort your divorce out properly in the first place and you won't have this kind of problem.
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except after this long most paperwork will have gone and also if this works how will you ever sort your divorce properly?

do you think women will agree to sign saying that all the financials have been settled when they know they could just leave it and if you ever get rich in future (or they ever need money) they can come back for a settlement?
 
I fail to see the controversy in this news story.

If she was entitled to something at the time of the divorce why is it such an issue that she receives it now?
 
Tefal said:
except after this long most paperwork will have gone and also if this works how will you ever sort your divorce properly?

do you think women will agree to sign saying that all the financials have been settled when they know they could just leave it and if you ever get rich in future (or they ever need money) they can come back for a settlement?
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When you divorce you ensure that you get the financial break as well...its simple enough.
 
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