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Kaapstad · 20 Mar 2015 at 06:24

MasterOC said:
Would like to see how one or two copes with the mess that is watchdogs

Not very well but 4 would totally nail the game @2160p as it has got good 4 way SLI support last time I tested.

Marine-RX179 · 20 Mar 2015 at 06:57

Kaapstad said:
Old news but I thought I would post it anyway.

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37317-nvidia-titan-x-single-precision-is-more-important

So they essentially saying they are removing the double-precision performance is for the good of the consumer, so that they get the benefit of spending tonnes more money to buy the far more expensive Nvidia products?

Got to hand it to Nvidia to the way they do their marketing...not many companies got the balls to claim giving less to the consumer is for their benefit

Gregster · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:02

If DP kills overclocking or even standard clocks, I would rather not have it. Primarily I am a gamer and a bit of benching, so drop DP. Reading through these TX threads, the only ones bothered by DP missing from the TX are those with no intention of buying. Those who have bought don't seem to care.

Kaapstad · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:04

Gregster said:
If DP kills overclocking or even standard clocks, I would rather not have it. Primarily I am a gamer and a bit of benching, so drop DP. Reading through these TX threads, the only ones bothered by DP missing from the TX are those with no intention of buying. Those who have bought don't seem to care.

+1

I would gladly pay extra to have DP disabled if NVidia had not already done it.

drunkenmaster · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:14

Gregster said:
If DP kills overclocking or even standard clocks, I would rather not have it. Primarily I am a gamer and a bit of benching, so drop DP. Reading through these TX threads, the only ones bothered by DP missing from the TX are those with no intention of buying. Those who have bought don't seem to care.

Those who find it interesting are pointing out the irony. When we said the Titan was hilariously overpriced and laughed at those that overpaid for them, or laughed at the literally insanely overpriced Titan Z, categorically we were told they weren't aimed at gamers, they were aimed at home workers who wanted DP performance and that is why the price was so high.

Every time the price was brought up an influx of Nvidia users pointed out these WEREN'T aimed at gamers... despite using GeForce, the gaming product brand and not Tesla/Quadro. Look up the Titan Z launch thread, every Nvidia guy was bending over backwards to explain these WEREN'T gaming cards and as such not badly priced.

So Nvidia's users excuse for the entire range of Titan's prices was it being a 'budget' high performance non DP crippled card..............

But when it's pointed out the latest Titan effectively has no DP... it doesn't matter, no one buying a Titan cares about DP performance.

Just a bunch of Nvidia users begging to be ripped off, making excuses one year that directly contradict the excuse they were making the year before. I won't overpay for a graphics card AMD or Nvidia, but I'm consistent in calling a spade a spade. The length Nvidia users will go to justify the absurd pricing and pretend they aren't being ripped off is hilarious.

Seriously last year "it's not expensive, it's a budget professional DP card", this year "it's not expensive, you don't need DP, you don't buy a Titan for DP performance".

Marine-RX179 · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:18

Gregster said:
If DP kills overclocking or even standard clocks, I would rather not have it. Primarily I am a gamer and a bit of benching, so drop DP. Reading through these TX threads, the only ones bothered by DP missing from the TX are those with no intention of buying. Those who have bought don't seem to care.

Actually before you try to turn this into a Green vs Red thing again, the only reason I pointed out about the DP issue is because back when Titan/Titan Black were release, people (yourself included) claimed that their high prices were justified because they were essentially Tesla card without the professional support that were amazing value for people who use it for professional/compute use.

But now DP get removed and it is now essentially just a GTX card for gaming, you are now saying compute performance don't matter so long as the gaming performance is good, so isn't that contradicting?

Seriously I don't know how peoples' mind work when it comes to Nvidia products...it just seem people can always find ways to justify.

Gregster · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:19

As DP is missing, I guess you won't be buying the TX then DM. Gutted, as I was looking forward to seeing you in the BM threads

Silent_Scone · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:43

Notice how Semi Accurate have been quiet lately?

That's because they've been wrong about so, so much. Practically everything actually.

Wish DM would walk the same line. Hey DM, did you realise Quadro 6000M doesn't have FP64 either? Maybe you should go and aggravate people paying thousands more...

Ya' (over)educated noob.

Kaapstad · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:46

I hope DM realises that no one on these forums is going to give a hoot if the Titan X does not have DP, because we are all gamers even me.

Silent_Scone · 20 Mar 2015 at 07:55

Kaapstad said:
I hope DM realises that no one on these forums is going to give a hoot if the Titan X does not have DP, because we are all gamers even me.

It's nothing but a long wait till June for the Super Shill. He'll be cold turkey till then with his random outbursts about DP. He knows it makes perfect sense why NV would remove DP on a chip of this size, and he knows full well it benefits everyone not looking to use DP.

Just laugh it up and move on, maybe he should write a letter to studios looking to buy the 6000M because it doesn't have DP. I'm sure they're not bound to sell any at all once they realise that. :rolleyes:

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Maybe if AMD managed to get a product to market before NV did once in a while we wouldn't have to pay top money. No paragraph filled with past tense, 'stabs' at 2004 releases and "club history" changes that fact.

Gregster · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:04

Marine-RX179 said:
Actually before you try to turn this into a Green vs Red thing again, the only reason I pointed out about the DP issue is because back when Titan/Titan Black were release, people (yourself included) claimed that their high prices were justified because they were essentially Tesla card without the professional support that were amazing value for people who use it for professional/compute use.

But now DP get removed and it is now essentially just a GTX card for gaming, you are now saying compute performance don't matter so long as the gaming performance is good, so isn't that contradicting?

Seriously I don't know how peoples' mind work when it comes to Nvidia products...it just seem people can always find ways to justify.

What are you on about? Coming out with crap like "before you try turning this into a red Vs Green thing" where the he'll have I even hinted at that? As for me buying my original Titans, you are telling lies, as even then I didn't care if it had DP and nothing I use or do makes any iota of difference. I bought the original Titans because of how fast they were and oddly enough, I have bought the Titan X because of how fast it is. Ease up on the conspiracies and made up stuff please.

TNA · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:08

Just saying, whenever the Titan price was brought up people (not everyone) used to say yeah, but it has DP. Now they don't have DP, yet same price anyway. Lol

Of course for us DP means nothing and we rather it not be there and get more performance, but that is not the point here

I am happy that such a good card exits, but the pricing is messed up. Essentially nvidia's top end cards just doubled in price. I just hope AMD does not go do the same. Otherwise best available graphics card would have gone from £200-300 to £800-900 in the space of 5-6 years

My 2 cents anyway. For those who can justify/got loadsamoney, happy days though

drunkenmaster · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:13

Kaapstad said:
I hope DM realises that no one on these forums is going to give a hoot if the Titan X does not have DP, because we are all gamers even me.

I hope that at some point you'll learn to read. I was responding to a post that was belittling someone bringing up that it sucked in DP performance. WHy, again, because Nvidia guys were using it's DP performance that you couldn't find on other desktop/consumer level cards as a reason for the pricing. In fact they wouldn't shut up about it.

AMD guys, me included, would point out that it was a gaming card, under a gaming brand, and that DP was irrelevant. I said so the whole time. But using DP as an excuse why at £800 it was great value becomes a bit of a joke when a year later you use lack of DP but the same cost as irrelevant.

It's Nvidia users who insisted it was SOOOO important that the cards cost was fine and now insist it's irrelevant, not me.

Bonjour · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:14

All the mentions of 'DP', I'm finding it hard to read this thread with a straight face.

Marine-RX179 · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:18

Gregster said:
What are you on about? Coming out with crap like "before you try turning this into a red Vs Green thing" where the he'll have I even hinted at that?

Gregster said:
Reading through these TX threads, the only ones bothered by DP missing from the TX are those with no intention of buying.

Double-precision has long been a standard feature of the Titan cards, which no longer existing in the new Titan X. You somehow seem to think anyone that talk about DP is "bothered" by it, when some or us are simply amazed by Nvidia able to pull off something like that...it's as if they got like tonnes of psychology experts working in their marketing department or something

Price premium for being a compute card, now price premium for being a gaming card

PCM2 · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:18

Bonjour said:
All the mentions of 'DP', I'm finding it hard to read this thread with a straight face.

Well I've been reading it as the TitanX doesn't have DisplayPort. Which would be a serious issue.

Stop with the lazy and misleading acronyms, people.

Silent_Scone · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:19

It's ok Kaap, his posts are difficult to read because he rambles nonsensically a lot. To everyone else it just looks like he's belittling the fact the card now has no DP.

Not sure who these Nvidia users are he keeps talking about, but putting them in a singular category basically sums him up.

He won't try to explain why the Quadro 6000 having no DP either is relevant. TITAN-X is priced as such because it is still for more than just consumers, but he won't admit that to you because his mission in life is to make NVIDIA look bad for releasing faster products year on year, and it really winds him up.

Marine-RX179 said:
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He's right though.

triss · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:23

Why does every thread have to become a Green vs Red thing again, AMD guys, Nvidia users... :mad:

Why cant we all just be Consumers/users..

Breaking news Titan X doesnt have DP Nvidia has explained for gamers which they wish to buy the card its better to focus on other issues. Yes the cards expensive if you want one pay for it or wait for a cut down version or the AMD equivalent. How many games is DP used in? Makes sense to me if its not used much to skip it in favour of more usable stuff

africanos23 · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:25

PCM2 said:
Well I've been reading it as the TitanX doesn't have DisplayPort. Which would be a serious issue. Stop with the lazy and misleading acronyms, people.

Wouldn't DP need 2 cards

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Gregster · 20 Mar 2015 at 08:25

There is plenty of nVidia users saying it as well. In fact, you seem to be turning this into a red Vs Green thing and you had the audacity to accuse me of it

@Bonjour - Lol

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