** TITANX **

[Gregster]

You should avoid misguiding people with wording

Lol.

From a purely personal perspective, I honestly don't get what or why DM is raging so much. People I know that have bought the Titan X for gaming and DP is obviously irrelevant or they would have got something else. It is like he is ripping into us for not having DP on our purchase and even though we don't care, we should and we should be raging because of it, which is pure and utter nonsense.

 

[iB CoMpL3XiTy]

If the Titan X does what people are expecting it to, then it has justified the cost. On that score the Titan X has not got a problem.

It doesn't matter what peoples expectations are, we already know what it can do via reviews that are already out.
We know its performance relative to other cards, how the cost is justified is down to the individual.
If you feel that 33% more performance over a GTX980 for twice the price is justifiable then great.

 

[Kaapstad]

It doesn't matter what peoples expectations are, we already now what it can do via reviews that are already out.
We know its performance relative to other cards, how the cost is justified is down to the individual.
If you feel that 33% more performance over a GTX980 for twice the price is justifiable then great.

Exactly.

 

[africanos23]

Lol.

From a purely personal perspective, I honestly don't get what or why DM is raging so much. People I know that have bought the Titan X for gaming and DP is obviously irrelevant or they would have got something else. It is like he is ripping into us for not having DP on our purchase and even though we don't care, we should and we should be raging because of it, which is pure and utter nonsense.

One thing I need to mention is that you, me and Kaap run 1440p+, like eyecandy, benching and we like waving our e-peens. .

When running into VRAM bottlenecks and hassle with 3+ cards when you can easily just slap 1 or 2 and be done with it. Thats more than enough imo.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Justification barely even comes in to play for most top end or enthusiast buyers.

You'll find the ones mostly justifying their purchases are the price/performance guys.

 

[fantasticCG]

No way! Even I had mine shipped via FedEx to save the hassle of taking the box on a plane.

Ok just a titan X then

 

[Kaapstad]

On the actual performance I will be looking for about 45% over a 980 @2160p which I don't think will be hard.

Some of the tech web sites could not bench a tramp in the park.

 

[iB CoMpL3XiTy]

I'm not justifying my purchase I have mentioned its a compulsive-impulse-degenerate act on my behalf.

Looking at all aspects....

I currently have 2xR9-290s in my PC that are ~roughly the performance of a single Titan X OCed. Crossfire for some games is just a waiting game, I'm a patient guy but 3 months isn't my fancy to be honest especially when I run 4K. They are overly hot (maybe it's those stupid MSI coolers) Gaming edition btw. I need to underclock and use VSync to not heat the room. They rock 4K but some things I just can't handle, one of the reasons I went with GTX970s.

I had GTX970s that were pretty good other temp wise as well as software wise. Other than some stutter when breaching over 3.5GB (very few titles) I had a great experience overall. RMAed as that VRAM stutter for me was just to much.

Nvidias drivers are by all means superior and Shadowplay is pretty nice.

12GB VRAM is going to become handy especially when I don't want to go back to anything under 4K. Then move to SLI for more horsepower.

AMD are overly quite and I have an urge when new hardware comes out especially since HBM might be max 8GB and we know nothing for sure about the R9-390Xs performance.

I'm not justifying the price, it's a lot but a well.. to each his own.

Well sounds like a you've justified the price to yourself atleast somewhat because of issues you've encountered with other GPU setups, I'm not knocking anyone who justifies the price, I was just pointing out that DM is fighting a loosing battle.

 

[africanos23]

Justification barely even comes in to play for most top end or enthusiast buyers.

You'll find the ones mostly justifying their purchases are the price/performance guys.

Let's say it was 650 GBP how many would jump into the owners club , instead of let's say a R295x2 ?

I guess if not everyone a very high percentage.

 

[Boomstick777]

Lol.

From a purely personal perspective, I honestly don't get what or why DM is raging so much. People I know that have bought the Titan X for gaming and DP is obviously irrelevant or they would have got something else. It is like he is ripping into us for not having DP on our purchase and even though we don't care, we should and we should be raging because of it, which is pure and utter nonsense.

Because the rational for the OG Titan was the DP, this was a compute entry level card that was also a gaming beast and thus warranted that new extreme level of high price tag.

What people are hinting at is that the Titan X is just a faster 'gaming' card, DP has been nerfed so the they think the higher price isn't as justified. It's a fair point.

To counter that point, you do have that extra 12GB frame buffer and there is no direct competition to this card at all, yet.. So unfortunately Nvidia can price it how they want.

I will also say this, for those looking for a budget Nvidia card they need look no further than the GTX 960 / GTX 970. The Titan X is not for budget gaming. It exists to offer those that have the money the option for the best there is today.

 

[africanos23]

Well sounds like a you've justified the price to yourself atleast somewhat because of issues you've encountered with other GPU setups, I'm not knocking anyone who justifies the price, I was just pointing out that DM is fighting a loosing battle.

"Somewhat" true dat (I'm still trying to convince myself the money is well spent ). It hasn't sunk into me that I just burnt 1300 euros on a single GPU.

If I had a even slight guess about what the performance of the R9-390X would be I would have waited and grabbed 2 or 3 and be done with it but sadly we know nada.

I even posted 2 days ago that I don't justify the price (and I would wait) but went and bought one anyway ... a well

 

[Gregster]

One thing I need to mention is that you, me and Kaap run 1440p+, like eyecandy, benching and we like waving our e-peens. .

When running into VRAM bottlenecks and hassle with 3+ cards when you can easily just slap 1 or 2 and be done with it. Thats more than enough imo.

100% this.

It comes a worrying time when you don't want to tell people what you bought in case it offends people and I have seen some frankly embarrassing posts from some people but like everything, it is water off a ducks back to me

 

[Boomstick777]

Justification barely even comes in to play for most top end or enthusiast buyers.

You'll find the ones mostly justifying their purchases are the price/performance guys.

+1

Those types of buyers miss the point of Titan X, everyone knows price VS performance goes out of the windows with the Titan X.

Personally that's the reason I have held off until it's at a price I can live with. Otherwise buyers remorse would have been strong with this one. Titan X exists for those that aren't worried about how much it costs lol.

Things will be better when AMD eventually get around to launching a new card, people won't be so upset

 

[setter]

I think we will definitely see a 6gb card and it will probably be about 5% faster than a Titan X.

What AMD have got to be careful of is if the rumours are true that the 390X will have 8gb of HBM and an AIO cooler, it could be more expensive than NVidias 6gb card. New tech often costs a lot to start with.

If the 390 does come with an AIO, its a definite no for me. Don't have the room in the case as id end up xfiring at some point. And I wont make the mistake of multi gpu with non reference cooled cards again.

 

[Silent_Scone]

He keeps referring to these 'NVIDIA users'. Who are they? I don't recall anyone here saying they needed a TITAN for fp64 performance.

A lot of text over something that never happened, is how his rant is best described

 

[whyscotty]

The card is 33% faster than a GTX980 (according to anand) but costs twice as much, it's overpriced for sure, but being the fastest single GPU out it'll get away with it.

So what about it having 3 x times the vram,bigger bus and no sli issues - or does that not have an effect on pricing?

 

[Kaapstad]

He keeps referring to these 'NVIDIA users'. Who are they? I don't recall anyone here saying they needed a TITAN for fp64 performance.

A lot of text over something that never happened, is how his rant is best described

Can not be me, I have been using 290Xs for the last three weeks.

Perhaps DM should give an NVidia based system a go for a while to broaden his outlook.

 

[VincentHanna]

Let's say it was 650 GBP how many would jump into the owners club , instead of let's say a R295x2 ?

I guess if not everyone a very high percentage.

At £650 I probably would have bought 2x and sold my 295x2 and 290x to be honest...

 

[Kaapstad]

So what about it having 3 x times the vram,bigger bus and no sli issues - or does that not have an effect on pricing?

Don't forget inflation from 2013, I know it's not much but it all counts.

 

[africanos23]

Can not be me, I have been using 290Xs for the last three weeks.

Perhaps DM should give an NVidia based system a go for a while to broaden his outlook.

Gregs running a 290x and I'm running 2xR9-290s .....