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Are Nvidia drivers really better than Amd's?

This is so subjective. People have their preferences and this affects their opinion whether they realise it or not. Example to explain what I mean, My father loves Toyota cars. Anytime anybody asks his advice on cars he recommends them. Yet, every Toyota car he has ever had has given him problems, even one time that the engine had to be replaced in an Avensis. Once, and to the surprise of everyone, he bought a Honda accord. The battery went flat shortly after purchase and he was left stranded. And to this day he still complains about it, yet hasn't a bad word to say against any Toyota cars.

It's the same in graphic cards. It doesn't apply to everyone of course, but I feel that if people prefer X brand over Y brand and they switch to Y brand, any little problem would be amplified, any fix that they would have to research themselves would be a hassle and something to complain about. Yet if they had the same problem with their preferred X brand they would just get the fix and carry on.

Somebody else mentioned that sometimes when people switch from Nvida to AMD or the other way around there is a learning curve with the control panel. This can also cause a negative reaction to the drivers.

And then there is perception. It's everywhere, AMD's drivers are terrible, I have had friends come up and ask for advice on getting graphics cards. I mention AMD and they go, oh no, I heard their drivers are really bad. LOL, this is from people who don't even know what a driver is or what the hell it does.

The above is just what I have noticed and does not reflect what I think about who has the better drivers.

For the last number of years I have had both a Nvidia and an AMD card at the same time, 3870x2, 4870x2, 6950, 290, 8800GT, 460, 570, 680. I can't say that I have had any issues worth complaining about with any of there cards. The two worst problems that I have had were with the two newest, the 680 and the 290. For the 290, I had to turn off hardware acceleration while browsing or else I got a bluescreen. And for the 680 there was the really annoying stuttering that Nvida took a long time to fix.

I do think Nvidia are quicker to release working profiles for multi card setups. It's something that AMD are really bad at, and things like this and having a late release for the Freesync driver and even later release for their crossfire freesync driver reinforce the opinion of those that say AMD drivers are worse than Nvidias.

And at this moment in time For single card users, no difference, for multi card setups go Nvidia.

haha, sorry for wall of text. DM eat your heart out :p
 
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melmac said:
This is so subjective. People have their preferences and this affects their opinion whether they realise it or not. Example to explain what I mean, My father loves Toyota cars. Anytime anybody asks his advice on cars he recommends them. Yet, every Toyota car he has ever had has given him problems, even one time that the engine had to be replaced in an Avensis. Once, and to the surprise of everyone, he bought a Honda accord. The battery went flat shortly after purchase and he was left stranded. And to this day he still complains about it, yet hasn't a bad word to say against any Toyota cars.

It's the same in graphic cards. It doesn't apply to everyone of course, but I feel that if people prefer X brand over Y brand and they switch to Y brand, any little problem would be amplified, any fix that they would have to research themselves would be a hassle and something to complain about. Yet if they had the same problem with their preferred X brand they would just get the fix and carry on.

Somebody else mentioned that sometimes when people switch from Nvida to AMD or the other way around there is a learning curve with the control panel. This can also cause a negative reaction to the drivers.

And then there is perception. It's everywhere, AMD's drivers are terrible, I have had friends come up and ask for advice on getting graphics cards. I mention AMD and they go, oh no, I heard their drivers are really bad. LOL, this is from people who don't even know what a driver is or what the hell it does.

The above is just what I have noticed and does not reflect what I think about who has the better drivers.

For the last number of years I have had both a Nvidia and an AMD card at the same time, 3870x2, 4870x2, 6950, 290, 8800GT, 460, 570, 680. I can't say that I have had any issues worth complaining about with any of there cards. The two worst problems that I have had were with the two newest, the 680 and the 290. For the 290, I had to turn off hardware acceleration while browsing or else I got a bluescreen. And for the 680 there was the really annoying stuttering that Nvida took a long time to fix.

I do think Nvidia are quicker to release working profiles for multi card setups. It's something that AMD are really bad at, and things like this and having a late release for the Freesync driver and even later release for their crossfire freesync driver reinforce the opinion of those that say AMD drivers are worse than Nvidias.

And at this moment in time For single card users, no difference, for multi card setups go Nvidia.

haha, sorry for wall of text. DM eat your heart out :p
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+1 but just like to point out that Gsync also did not work with multi GPU when it first came out either and that's NVs own custom tech.

People have a staggeringly short memory at times or just not aware of what happened in the past and can only see the now in which Gsync works with Multi GPU and Freesync does not and comment as if thing were not like this for Gsync when in fact it was and they had to pay a premium for the privilege.
 
AMD have had working xfire for every game I can think of for years, I've actually barely gamed since the Omega drivers came out, not played Far Cry 4, Dying Light, barely sure what else has come out since Nov/December time frame.

I remember as far back as Bioshock , the first one, where AMD had a working and better performance driver for both xfire and just standard than Nvidia had. It was a TWIMTBP game and their launch driver was poor and then they had about 5 beta drivers in a week to fix the game while for AMD they had a drive release a day before launch and it worked great. This was repeated on many many occasions of the years.

There seems to be some massive thing at a time of huge change in the way AMD handles drivers and now Nvidia guys run around claiming this driver situation is new.

Remember that AMD had a monthly driver for the past what, 4-5 years up to the first Omega launch in which we didn't hear any of those slow to respond nonsense while Nvidia was doing a major driver every few months. AMD switch to a slower schedule and now every single thread is full of Nvidia guys hitting AMD for being slower with drivers... no slower than Nvidia but slower than they used to be and likely only temporarily.

People don't have short memories, they have inaccurate memories. Plenty of games have had trouble getting proper xfire OR sli support in terms of actually good scaling, because plenty of games need a lot of work to get working in multicard setups. I still think for the majority outside of some of the games over the years that just suck with multi card, AMD actually tend to get normal single card support for a game out before Nvidia and that has been the case for many years. The number of games in which Nvidia has had a TWIMTBP game launch with SHOCKING driver support is hilarious when people insist their drivers are perfect. Even worse really is the number of TWIMTBP games that have released in a terrible state, buggy/stuttery mess despite the supposed massive dev support from Nvidia.

WOuld still look at Stalker 2 or 3, whichever one it was, as the best example. Buggy crashing DX10 TWIMTBP mess. Nvidia didn't help and didn't help them get it working, Nvidia dropped the game. AMD picked it up, worked with the devs, added DX11 and helped them fix the game.

The woeful Ubisoft TWIMTBP titles from last year still aren't in great shape.
 
drunkenmaster said:
AMD have had working xfire for every game I can think of for years, I've actually barely gamed since the Omega drivers came out, not played Far Cry 4, Dying Light, etc etc etc
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Drunkenmaster, there is so many games that come out and each users experience will be different.

The Nov until now time-frame had bucketloads of AAA and other games come out every day.

All that aside I do game benchmarks (on both vendors) and buy most of the hyped-anticipated games that come out day zero (time is spent 50/50 on each brand I suppose) as I leave whatever GPUs I benched last in my system.

I have both Nvidia and AMD GPUs (multi) and most of the time (as of late) AMD have been slacky or have horrid performance especially in terms of Crossfire and day zero (and most of the time 2-3 months+ in).

Nvidia are more inclined to work with developers (apart from some AMD exclusives) and push their drivers/optimizations even faster when they aren't involved in development.

If AMD had a bigger budget in R&D and more people in driver support, Nvidia wouldn't be where it is today imo. Most users I think will agree.
 
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melmac said:
This is so subjective. People have their preferences and this affects their opinion whether they realise it or not. Example to explain what I mean, My father loves Toyota cars. Anytime anybody asks his advice on cars he recommends them. Yet, every Toyota car he has ever had has given him problems, even one time that the engine had to be replaced in an Avensis. Once, and to the surprise of everyone, he bought a Honda accord. The battery went flat shortly after purchase and he was left stranded. And to this day he still complains about it, yet hasn't a bad word to say against any Toyota cars.

It's the same in graphic cards. It doesn't apply to everyone of course, but I feel that if people prefer X brand over Y brand and they switch to Y brand, any little problem would be amplified, any fix that they would have to research themselves would be a hassle and something to complain about. Yet if they had the same problem with their preferred X brand they would just get the fix and carry on.

Somebody else mentioned that sometimes when people switch from Nvida to AMD or the other way around there is a learning curve with the control panel. This can also cause a negative reaction to the drivers.

And then there is perception. It's everywhere, AMD's drivers are terrible, I have had friends come up and ask for advice on getting graphics cards. I mention AMD and they go, oh no, I heard their drivers are really bad. LOL, this is from people who don't even know what a driver is or what the hell it does.

The above is just what I have noticed and does not reflect what I think about who has the better drivers.

For the last number of years I have had both a Nvidia and an AMD card at the same time, 3870x2, 4870x2, 6950, 290, 8800GT, 460, 570, 680. I can't say that I have had any issues worth complaining about with any of there cards. The two worst problems that I have had were with the two newest, the 680 and the 290. For the 290, I had to turn off hardware acceleration while browsing or else I got a bluescreen. And for the 680 there was the really annoying stuttering that Nvida took a long time to fix.

I do think Nvidia are quicker to release working profiles for multi card setups. It's something that AMD are really bad at, and things like this and having a late release for the Freesync driver and even later release for their crossfire freesync driver reinforce the opinion of those that say AMD drivers are worse than Nvidias.

And at this moment in time For single card users, no difference, for multi card setups go Nvidia.

haha, sorry for wall of text. DM eat your heart out :p
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Nice post. This stuff happens to a lot of people without them realising it. Refreshing to see a more objective view on this forum. Too many people really think Nvidia are so much better than they actually are. I tend to just ignore what I read in most of those posts as they come of way to subjective and therefore likely inaccurate.
 
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whyscotty said:
If you wasn't so blatantly bias some people could actually learn from the obvious knowledge you have.

It's just a pity the your style of posting gets peoples backs up
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So true. Sometimes I wonder who has more bias, dm for amd cards, or gregy-eye-ster for Nvidia cards. Lol :)
 
If I didn't like PC gaming as much as I do, I would quite happily bin my rig coz of the crap Drivers Nvidia has put out recently.

I'm spending more time tweaking to get things to run than I have in a long time.

I like to run 2 Gpu's (sad I know) but lately - It's been 1 step forward 2 back with Nvidia :(
 
whyscotty said:
If I didn't like PC gaming as much as I do, I would quite happily bin my rig coz of the crap Drivers Nvidia has put out recently.

I'm spending more time tweaking to get things to run than I have in a long time.

I like to run 2 Gpu's (sad I know) but lately - It's been 1 step forward 2 back with Nvidia :(
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Do what a lot of people here do, reward nvidia for it by selling your two cards, add even more money to it and buy a single card in the shape of a titan x. Lolz
 
whyscotty said:
It has been mentioned :D
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Just throwing this here for whyscotty (sorry for being off topic) ****air with modded bios****

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TNA said:
Do what a lot of people here do, reward nvidia for it by selling your two cards, add even more money to it and buy a single card in the shape of a titan x. Lolz
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See these posts make me lol (and not a dig at all and many people do it). The term "Rewarding nVidia" is comical. I reward my dogs when they do something good and they get told off when they do something naughty but the key points being "Dogs" and "Reward" nVidia isn't a ******* puppy or any kind of emotional attachment. It is a hobby/fun thing and nothing more. :D Some people do get wrapped up in it far too much (not saying you btw TNA) but I honestly can't understand some of the hate for either AMD or nVidia. We have seen people foaming and literally hating on people who buy hardware over the years for some curious reason.

Crazy first world problems :D
 
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