Muslim Tory candidate Afzal Amin suspended amid accusations of faking anti-mosque protest

Well...yeah, in this case it is.

No it's not. Whether he is a muslim or not makes no difference to the allegation. Anyone could have done it for the same reasons...to get elected. He didn't try to take create a fake situation he could take credit for because he was a muslim, he did it because he thought it would get him elected, if true he's simply another dirty politician because like many, he craves the power it gives him, he's not a dirty politician because he is a Muslim. That's it.

The inherent prejudice in people simply astounds me sometimes..that we still produce such stupidity in a progressive, supposedly educated society is sad.
 
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I can't stand Farage but I completely agree, he was out for a meal with his family, people shouldn't be hounded like this.

I don't know... taking his immigrant family in to OUR restaurants who does he think he is? He deserves everything he gets. Cant wait for UKIP to get in to stop this sort of thing... oh wait.
 
No it's not. Whether he is a muslim or not makes no difference to the allegation. Anyone could have done it for the same reasons...to get elected. He didn't try to take create a fake situation he could take credit for because he was a muslim, he did it because he thought it would get him elected, if true he's simply another dirty politician because like many, he craves the power it gives him, he's not a dirty politician because he is a Muslim. That's it.

The inherent prejudice in people simply astounds me sometimes..that we still produce such stupidity in a progressive, supposedly educated society is sad.

So you don't think that the fact he's Muslim influenced his decision to choose a mosque as the protest focus? If not I think you're being depressingly naive in order to offer the outside illusion of liberal attitude.

Sometimes a stick is simply a stick.
 
So you don't think that the fact he's Muslim influenced his decision to choose a mosque as the protest focus? If not I think you're being depressingly naive in order to offer the outside illusion of liberal attitude.

Sometimes a stick is simply a stick.

Not really, as any politician could have done the same thing for the same reasons. The EDL and Islam being contentious and newsworthy., if I was going to do something like that, then it's ideal for getting traction in the Press and electorate, especially if the mosque is already in the local publics consciousness ..Being a Muslim simply doesn't make him a bent politician as is being insinuated. I'm not even a liberal btw, but I would rather be called a liberal than be a bigot.

That's not naive, it's being called objective. However, if you would rather be informed by your prejudices though, then that is what is depressing.
 
You know somethings seriously rotten at the heart of our political classes when the political person who has demonstrated the most integrity is Tommy Robinson of the EDL.

This.

Beth Rigby says "Dudley North now straight Labour/Ukip fight - & collapse of Tory vote will put Ukip in pole position (Ukip 34% Lab 37% in dec poll"
 
He was standing in my area, his flyers came across as quite professional, and being an ex army captain, he seemed like a decent bet, even for a tory!

The story just sounds so ridiculous!
 
He was standing in my area, his flyers came across as quite professional, and being an ex army captain, he seemed like a decent bet, even for a tory!

The story just sounds so ridiculous!


It took a year but now he has been caught out.. Wonder what his next job will be?
 
Not really, as any politician could have done the same thing for the same reasons. The EDL and Islam being contentious and newsworthy., if I was going to do something like that, then it's ideal for getting traction in the Press and electorate, especially if the mosque is already in the local publics consciousness ..Being a Muslim simply doesn't make him a bent politician as is being insinuated. I'm not even a liberal btw, but I would rather be called a liberal than be a bigot.

That's not naive, it's being called objective. However, if you would rather be informed by your prejudices though, then that is what is depressing.

I have at no point stated being muslim is what has lead to him being bent. What I'm saying is it is more than likely a factor that lead him to choose a mosque as the focus of his deception. People tend to focus on things that they are familiar with or passionate about. Being a muslim I imagine both of those things apply to him!
It's not prejudice, it's not bigotry, it's logic and probability.
 
I have at no point stated being muslim is what has lead to him being bent. What I'm saying is it is more than likely a factor that lead him to choose a mosque as the focus of his deception. People tend to focus on things that they are familiar with or passionate about. Being a muslim I imagine both of those things apply to him!
It's not prejudice, it's not bigotry, it's logic and probability.


Considering I didn't say you did in that context, as I wasn't actually talking to you in the first place when you joined the discussion (the context of which was whether his being a Muslim is important in whether he is dirty politically or not) it's good that isn't the case then....you might want to look back at what you quoted initially before you assess just how much wriggle room you have.

Also I think it's more to do with politics and what's going on in Dudley than anything to do with his religion, which by all accounts seems to be rather unimportant to him if what is being reported is true. (As regards his beliefs) it's not logical or probable at all that being a Muslim would have predisposed him more to broker a deal with the EDL in order to gain advantage in an election, as I said anyone who would want to do the same would look at that as being a good way to gain Press traction. A ukip or labour mp might we'll have done the same thing.

If the mosque was important to him he wouldn't have risked it by leveraging it in such a way.

Anyone would have looked at the issue in a similar way, whether they be religious or not. Being a Muslim was incidental not the cause.
 
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Our political system is a disgrace, politicians will resort to anything to get themselves elected, how many times have they lied about policies or used loop holes in recent years? every election it's like having several power mad dictators competing against one another, rather than political parties who want to do good for the country and just accepts that if their policies are not popular they will lose.

Stirring up racial tensions to win votes, he should be locked up.
 
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Our political system is a disgrace, politicians will resort to anything to get themselves elected, how many times have they lied about policies or used loop holes in recent years? every election it's like having several power mad dictators competing against one another, rather than political parties who want to do good for the country and just accepts that if their policies are not popular they will lose.

Better to just have one power mad dictator eh? Like your pal Putin.
 
Despite his staunch denials, the video doesn't help his case. I hope he gets more than a slap on the wrist.
 
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