This is right, as console have been getting better and are cheaper than most high end GFX cards it has killed this market, any company has a limited resource and has to commit them where they see the most revenue, it's simple economics.
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Samsung to buy AMD, rumor?
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This is right, as console have been getting better and are cheaper than most high end GFX cards it has killed this market, any company has a limited resource and has to commit them where they see the most revenue, it's simple economics.
But Samsung make the components for iphone/pad. Intel, Foxconn and nvidia make the components for their desktops. Apple don't actually make ANYTHING, they just put it in a shiny case and stick the extortionate price tag on it.
If Samsung buy AMD then they would be able to manufacture everything to build a PC or console themselves. So would be able to massively undercut Apple, Sony and MS.
Samsung have both a 14nm and 20nm process. Looking at the news flow its highly likely that the 14nm Fab is already pumping out chips.
GPU Volume is small in comparison to smartphones, can anyone think of a reason why capacity could not be used for both ?
GPU Volume is small in comparison to smartphones, can anyone think of a reason why capacity could not be used for both ?
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People tend to forget that we're just a niche segment, so if you're focused on the high end consumer market then yes, they're almost somewhat being lapped at the moment by NVIDIA.
It's not good, in fact it's starting to look a little concerning, but financially I don't think there is any credibility in selling out to someone like Samsung. If you look at Samsung as a corporation rather than what technologies/manufacturing they could bring to the company - it's bleak. Really bleak.
Samsung don't really have any passion behind anything. If this happened, they would be more likely to absorb AMDs assets and use them to expedite their foothold in the mobile market. Qualcomm are flagging further than they have in recent years, and now is the perfect time for Samsung to hit back. Any acquisition would obviously take time, but if this did happen - the people reading this thread are more likely to suffer more than they are already in a few years time. Nothing is set in stone however, and it could go completely the other way. My personal guess is that it flat out just-won't happen.
It's not good, in fact it's starting to look a little concerning, but financially I don't think there is any credibility in selling out to someone like Samsung. If you look at Samsung as a corporation rather than what technologies/manufacturing they could bring to the company - it's bleak. Really bleak.
Samsung don't really have any passion behind anything. If this happened, they would be more likely to absorb AMDs assets and use them to expedite their foothold in the mobile market. Qualcomm are flagging further than they have in recent years, and now is the perfect time for Samsung to hit back. Any acquisition would obviously take time, but if this did happen - the people reading this thread are more likely to suffer more than they are already in a few years time. Nothing is set in stone however, and it could go completely the other way. My personal guess is that it flat out just-won't happen.
If this isn't AMD's turn around year they will have to shut up shop or go for a buyout because they are running out of cash.
I read the Contract, your wrong. its a contract like anyother, there is nothing spesial about it that states AMD dont have control of thier own IP.
I read the Contract, your wrong. its a contract like anyother, there is nothing spesial about it that states AMD dont have control of thier own IP.
Being first and having better tools. For the majority of stuff, OPEN CL is now a better bet, certainly for almost anything that doesn't involve massive number crunching. Especially as AMD have a large architectural lead now and will have a gigantic one with the new gen cards.
By the time Pascal hits, NVIDIA should have well below 50% of the Pro market. Most estimates put AMD at 15-20%, NVIDIA at 70% and Intel with most of the rest currently. However this is likely out of date, since the Mac Pro contract was huge for AMD.
Also, they have nothing to combat HSA with really.
I'm sorry, you are either lying or have serious reading comprehension issues. I'm not interesting in playing your bizarre little games on this any further.
If your going to accuse pepole of being a lair you need to back up your claims.
I'm telling you i see nothing in that contract which means AMD don't have control over thier own IP. now its for you to point out where that is.
CUDA is still far ahead in terms of support and tool chains, and is the far superior option once you move beyond small time single workstation apps. There is a reason IBM (the biggest supercomputer vendor on the planet) solely deal with Nvidia for HPC GPU needs, and it's not because of marketing.
I posted it all the last time we had this thread, you ignored it then, I'm not going to waste my time. Learn to search function.
You posted a link to the whole thing. what i want you to do is point out the spessific wording.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-firepro-awarded-2014nov20.aspx
Samsung's 14nm is in the new Galaxy
Samsung's 14nm is in the new Galaxy
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WTF? Some of you need to get out more.
People really need to stop taking this crap to heart. Some journalist plagiarises another journalists article from 2 months ago and you lot take rip into to each other.
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HP are the biggest player in high-end supercomputers, not IBM, with 36% of the top 500 to IBMs 30%. IBM were the biggest in the past but have been losing market share rapidly.
OpenCL has seemed to be on the ascendancy recently, gaining lots of publicity. CUDA seems to have been falling off a bit relatively, but it's far from a decided thing so we shall see. AMD being the most power-efficient for heavy OpenCL work rather shows the 'nVidia are untouchably ahead in power efficiency' claim is complete garbage, they did a better job in their desktop cards of cutting out the unnecessary stuff to keep power use down (which I think was a good decision tbh).
I'd be very surprised if AMD could deny Intel their x86-64 instruction set as competition laws require fair access (i.e. not stupidly expensive or just unavailable) to necessary tech licences to compete in a given space and I really doubt Intel's lawyers would lose that argument. *shrug*
OpenCL has seemed to be on the ascendancy recently, gaining lots of publicity. CUDA seems to have been falling off a bit relatively, but it's far from a decided thing so we shall see. AMD being the most power-efficient for heavy OpenCL work rather shows the 'nVidia are untouchably ahead in power efficiency' claim is complete garbage, they did a better job in their desktop cards of cutting out the unnecessary stuff to keep power use down (which I think was a good decision tbh).
I'd be very surprised if AMD could deny Intel their x86-64 instruction set as competition laws require fair access (i.e. not stupidly expensive or just unavailable) to necessary tech licences to compete in a given space and I really doubt Intel's lawyers would lose that argument. *shrug*
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