Jeremy Clarkson suspended from BBC

[Tummy]

If you think he would still have lost his job if this hadn't been a major news story then I have a bridge to sell you

If you think his contract would be renewed after physically assaulting a colleague, and an extensive verbal assault over a meal then you're absolutely crazy.

The BBC has a duty to it's employee's to provide a safe working environment free from fear of physical assault. Clarkson over stepped the line.

The media/BBC did not punch and verbally assault that producer Clarkson did.

He is referring to the majority of people, and the BBC is funded by the tax payer.

It is funded by TV licenses. Not 'tax payers'.

It's not just a presenter change, it's a change of all presenters one of which was a lead producer/writer and the person who came up with the shows format and convinced the BBC to make new Top Gear in the first place.

The format works, the presenters are a cog in the machine as the production team, writers et al are.

If you want to see Top Gear with three randoms trying to be Clarkson/May/Hammond then watch US/Aus Top Gear, the inferiority of the shows is evident.

Anybody can see though he isn't entirely blameless, if he hadn't failed at his job then one of the people he was charged with looking after wouldn't have gone off on him. If he had diffused the situation with an irate drunk man (which you can do simply be leaving the room) then the wouldn't have been an incident at all.

He failed at his job? So it's ok to punch him and extensively verbally assault him?

Clarkson punched and extensively verbally berated a colleague over not getting what he wanted to eat.

The blame is almost entirely Clarksons for hitting the poor man, but saying it was entirely his own fault is just him being professional.

The blame is entirely Clarksons. Clarkson in his credit since the assault has handled himself well, he informed the BBC bosses (NOTE THAT THE VICTIM DID NOT) and has attempted to apologise, and has said on camera that none of this is the victims fault.

I think figures of £50 million plus were being thrown about over what the BBC will lose in penalties alone for losing the episodes sold in advance. That of course doesn't include the loss of revenue from Top Gears death and the brand damage to export shows.

You're wrong, I'm old enough to remember TG before JC hammond and May it was just another dull programme that hardly anyone watched on a sunday evening. As the for the production, what production? Its filmed in a basically a big shed with a group of people huddled around and they talk about a few cars and drive around an airfield for a bit. And thats it.

Its the banter between the presenters that made it popular I couldn't even tell you what cars they've reviewed because honestly I have no interest in cars per se. Its not for that reason why I or I imagine most people tuned in for. Anyone remember Stig in a Manger a christmas or two ago?! I can't 5th Gear doing anything like that. Comedy gold. And not afraid to push a few buttons which PC people loved to hate it for which eventually led to its downfall. If the pressure wasn't on JC quite so much lately I find it hard to believe something like this would have happened in the first place.

Oh well back to bland, PC, non-offensive TV programming that no-one will watch and the PC folk will bathe in the warm glow of their own self righteous sense of a job well done.

This is hilarious.

The presenters are a cog in the machine of a television show, Top Gear is a well produced, well written programme (I know three people whom have worked on the show in some capacity and have worked with the presenters on other projects) and if you think the show is entirely successful because of the presenters you're crazy.

Top Gear, for a good while, has gotten things spot on (not in terms of content) in terms of the harmony of the aspects of the show.

I understand Clarkson is a big reason the show was revived and became successful but to pin it all on him is silly, I'm sure he would be the first person to credit the people he's worked with.

I can't wait to see how bad it is without the original team.

I hope May leaves as well and makes more programs like them Toy stories series he did a while back.

Original team? Do you mean Angela Rippon and Tom Coyne?

Top Gear was first broadcast in 1977.

I watched the show and enjoyed it, but it a car show without being a car show.

I was talking to friends about this and I actually think that a British 'Myth Busters' could work well with these three, the type of slapstick humour in some of the specials would lend itself well to the type of show.

None of them will have problems getting work.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Maybe that producer should have just got him hot food. He worked with Clarkson for over 10 years, he should know what he needs and when he needs it. He was lucky to have just been punched in all fairness, I would have given him the boot as well.

Even if he did bring him hot food, he would have probably been punched at some point anyway for looking like this:

Probably the most punchable face I have ever seen.

The living embodiment of the German word "backpfeifengesicht".

 

[Tummy]

The living embodiment of the German word "backpfeifengesicht".

Stupid post aside. People are aware that Clarkson and the producer 'made up' so to speak afterwards?

 

[Maccapacca]

We need a Top Gear / Clarkson sub forum

 

[Terminal_Boy]

And quite possibly one for the punching of people who look like extras from LOTR..

 

[Terminal_Boy]

So Nick Knowles has been mentioned as apparently the BBC see him as a safe pair of hands.

I can see it now, "Man in a reasonably priced white van"...

 

[arknor]

Probably the most punchable face I have ever seen.

have you ever saw justin bieber ?

 

[Judgeneo]

have you ever saw justin bieber ?

I dunno, I always thought he came across as more of a "I want to throttle you" kinda guy

 

[Cosimo]

We need a Top Gear / Clarkson sub forum

They can drive off into the sunset.

 

[Mark A]

Original team? Do you mean Angela Rippon and Tom Coyne?

Top Gear was first broadcast in 1977.

I watched the show and enjoyed it, but it a car show without being a car show.

I was talking to friends about this and I actually think that a British 'Myth Busters' could work well with these three, the type of slapstick humour in some of the specials would lend itself well to the type of show.

None of them will have problems getting work.

You know who I meant . I agree they could do a show like that, especially with May to handle the science side of things. Will be interesting to see what they do next. Hopefully they stick together.

 

[jetpaczx]

Probably the most punchable face I have ever seen.

Not seen this muppet then

 

[cainer]

JC was thrown great cars left right n centre from top manufacturers because of his/the shows popularity,
could a new lead presenter get the same pulling power? i doubt it..
over the years JC would have made so many contacts with 'big boss men' that he could probably call the shots over what 'new TG' could get their hands on to test

 

[pepsilol]

JC was thrown great cars left right n centre from top manufacturers because of his/the shows popularity,
could a new lead presenter get the same pulling power? i doubt it..
over the years JC would have made so many contacts with 'big boss men' that he could probably call the shots over what 'new TG' could get their hands on to test

If Top Gear maintains it's viewing figures then they will get the cars they want.

Even if you half the figures you will still get the cars.

Your post shows a lack of understanding on these matters.

 

[cainer]

If Top Gear maintains it's viewing figures then they will get the cars they want.

Even if you half the figures you will still get the cars.

Your post shows a lack of understanding on these matters.

they wont maintain their viewing figures, if clarkie goes else where he will still get first reveiws on new cars, imo

 

[ubersonic]

If you think his contract would be renewed after physically assaulting a colleague, and an extensive verbal assault over a meal then you're absolutely crazy.

Nope, if it hadn't become a massive news story he would have got off with a final final warning, the BBC wouldn't want to lose tens of millions over an incident like this.

It is funded by TV licenses. Not 'tax payers'.

1: The TV license is a tax.
2: It is not the only source of revenue the BBC receive, they also get extra from the government (which again comes from the taxpayer).

The format works, the presenters are a cog in the machine as the production team, writers et al are.

Yes, the format Clarkson came up with works great, but without his writing/producing/presenting the show will be no better than Top Gear USA.

He failed at his job? So it's ok to punch him and extensively verbally assault him?

Nobody said that.

Clarkson punched and extensively verbally berated a colleague over not getting what he wanted to eat.

It was Tymons job to look after Clarkson and make sure he got that steak, he received the drunken tirade because he had failed at that, a tirade he could have just walked away from in order to diffuse the situation.

This is hilarious.

The presenters are a cog in the machine of a television show, Top Gear is a well produced, well written programme (I know three people whom have worked on the show in some capacity and have worked with the presenters on other projects) and if you think the show is entirely successful because of the presenters you're crazy.

Your confusing crazy with realistic, pretty different things, lets look at it logically:

Would it have been a success without them: No.
Have other Top Gear branded shows copied the format: Yes.
Were that as successful: No, not even close.

Its well produced and written because (in part) of Clarkson's role as a lead producer/writer, he is the main writer and the only other producer who outranks him is the executive producer Andy Wilman.

I understand Clarkson is a big reason the show was revived and became successful but to pin it all on him is silly, I'm sure he would be the first person to credit the people he's worked with.

He wasn't a big reason he was THE reason, the BBC had 0 intention of ever relaunching Top Gear, he literally had to beg them and show them how successful his other shows and his home videos were. He fought to get the show relaunched in his image and the BBC has been repaid a hundred times over.

 

[Xordium]

It was Tymons job to look after Clarkson and make sure he got that steak, he received the drunken tirade because he had failed at that, a tirade he could have just walked away from in order to diffuse the situation.

Alternatively you could face the fact that Clarkson was in the wrong and irrespective of whether someone messes up their job then acting like a spoiled brat and assaulting someone is not ok. It's pretty stupid to suggest that it's somehow the producers fault when it was Clarkson was the only one responsible for his behaviour. This is the kind of stuff we teach toddlers.

 

[Edrof]

This is still going on and now steaks are involved?

 

[cainer]

This is still going on and now steaks are involved?

you dont have a Steak for me bro? expect fat lip + 20 minute abuse

 

[delta0]

Rumour now is Sky 1 are going to launch Top Speed with Clarkson, Hammond and May

 

[DJMK4]

Rumour now is Sky 1 are going to launch Top Speed with Clarkson, Hammond and May

Really? HP Sauce of this rumour?