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AMD's Future of Gaming: FreeSync, DirectX 12, LiquidVR, VR And More
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SLI does work fine in FC4 but one of the AA settings results in mass texture flickering. The same with AC:U as well until you removed the intro vids (how weird is that?).
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It must be down to poor development of the games, as both of the issues you mention sound like issues that NV or AMD couldn't fix with a driver? The poor crossfire support in FC4 could well be driver/profile related though is it runs quite poorly for me without AA, it is at 2160p mind.
What I hate about UBISoft games is the fact that UBISoft make them. Fantastic games, with fantastic playability and great stories but rushed out (I assume that's the reason for so many patches being needed).
What I really dislike seeing is AMD users blaming nVidia and specifically GameWorks, when it is clear that both AMD and nVidia users are getting the same **** albeit nVidia do have SLI working.
Batman AO is a GameWorks title with most of the GameWorks libs and that runs 'sweet as' on nVidia and AMD, so shows that a dev can use these supposed "Anti AMD" libraries and they can run very well on AMD hardware. I was happily playing Batman with all the bells and whistles (including PhysX) on the 290X and it flew along nicely and smoothly.
Yeah, I though it might be engine related. I don't really understand how a company as large as Ubisoft can release such high profile games with major issues, its quite baffling.
They always want to hit certain release schedules, whether the game is ready or not.
It is better for them to get a game released in time for Christmas or summer holidays and patch things up later than miss the big sales windows.
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I couldn't agree more, Ubi's games could be mind-blowing but are let down by terribly annoying bugs and poor optimisation. Just a bit more time in the oven for some polish and bug fixing and they would be epic.
Batman did run sweet for me too I must say, only issue I had was the bug where you could not climb through the vent and got stuck in a small room, which was a game issue that was patched by the devs.
The worrying thing is this trend of releasing broken games seems to be getting worse, 2014 was a very bad year for it.
That's true, its all about the money and customer satisfaction is an afterthought.
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To be fair Nvidia are the kind of company that is willing to lie about specs (gtx 970), disable features that are expected as they go (overclocking mobile gpu's), free farm the fanboys (raising gpu prices very fast in a small period of time and reselling mid range cards as high end ones) and generally I wouldn't be surprised with there love of proprietary technology (physx, gsynch, 3Dvision) that they are trying to push AMD out. Is there any reason we should automatically trust them considering most businesses nowadays have dark secrets? I honestly don't keep track of these companies all that much but I wouldn't be surprised if both had there games going on, difference is some companies (like EA who buy out and crush other devs over time) can be more damaging than others to the industry. Even if Nvidia were squeaky clean they still try and hold every fan to ransom on the price of there cards just for kicks.
If you hate it then find the evidence that proves them wrong I suppose because you can't deny people there suspicions just because you don't like it. I imagine there's plenty of things Nvidia fans do that AMD fans don't like either but water under the bridge really.
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Guilty until proven innocent? That's not how it works and there has been many conspiracy theories thrown about and even AMD did some mud slinging, which was responded to by nVidia and later AMD issued retractions
I have not been very pro proprietary but seeing what happens when AMD bring out an open standard (TressFX and TrueAudio), I am more inclined to want proprietary, as that way, it at least gets support. If you want it, buy the product, if not, don't whine. Simples really.
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No one said they WAS guilty but just that people can have there opinions. I'm sure HSBC was guilty of the whole money laundering / foreign bank accounts thing before we found out too but ignorance to sin is not proof of innocence either. All I'm saying is people can have opinions and we'd all need to prove everything beyond reasonable doubt (see how that works for courts and criminals that get away with things) if we wasn't even allowed opinions without undisputable proof. Never saw those retractions myself but overall I'm not saying Nvidia are guilty, just seems like this has been a bit of a mud slinging match from the Nvidia crew. Or are we not in a thread about AMD and future technologies where it's derailed (yet again like all AMD threads by Nvidia fans lately) to commenting on AMD fans blaming gameworks?Guilty until proven innocent? That's not how it works and there has been many conspiracy theories thrown about and even AMD did some mud slinging, which was responded to by nVidia and later AMD issued retractions
I have not been very pro proprietary but seeing what happens when AMD bring out an open standard (TressFX and TrueAudio), I am more inclined to want proprietary, as that way, it at least gets support. If you want it, buy the product, if not, don't whine. Simples really.
The reason those things didn't get support is because the biggest gpu manufacturer went towards proprietary tech instead of helping with the open source though
It's not supported because the tech you want supported is not being supported by the company you prefer. It's not a huge issue but it's because of Nvidia it's not working out really. Also I swing both ways, got a Nvidia 980m in my laptop since I find Nvidia mobile gpu's were the best at the time and I've had Nvidia cards in my main rigs too, just don't like the way Nvidia is price gouging the living crap out of the industry and then trying to make the price gouging more and more necessary with proprietary tech. It's all simples but either way I'm not trying to derail this thread to Nvidia vs AMD like is happening so I'll just drop it.
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No one said they WAS guilty but just that people can have there opinions. I'm sure HSBC was guilty of the whole money laundering / foreign bank accounts thing before we found out too but ignorance to sin is not proof of innocence either. All I'm saying is people can have opinions and we'd all need to prove everything beyond reasonable doubt (see how that works for courts and criminals that get away with things) if we wasn't even allowed opinions without undisputable proof. Never saw those retractions myself but overall I'm not saying Nvidia are guilty, just seems like this has been a bit of a mud slinging match from the Nvidia crew. Or are we not in a thread about AMD and future technologies where it's derailed (yet again like all AMD threads by Nvidia fans lately) to commenting on AMD fans blaming gameworks?
The reason those things didn't get support is because the biggest gpu manufacturer went towards proprietary tech instead of helping with the open source though
Opinions are generally backed up by some form of evidence. There isn't any other than the usual suspects claiming this and that but with nothing to back it up EVER! My post wasn't directed at you either and more of a general post and no need to explain what GPU you use, as that makes no difference to me and I enjoy a good debate regardless of vendor.
Have you thought that perhaps GameWorks just gives AMD a convenient excuse to be their usual lazy selves? afterall it's not like AMD owners will blame AMD for their poor experiences they just go running to the internet to create a 10 page thread bashing NVidia/Gameworks.
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Like the other day? You Continued to call me uneducated and in the end you was completely wrong. I even give evidence and was still shot down..
Yeah that went well.
If I want to believe a reason for something I have every right in believing that till proven otherwise.
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You can believe that all you want.
You was wrong. There is still the last stored frame being delivered to make the gameplay smoother. I gave you the evidence countless times but you wouldn't listen then and won't listen now and I told you to believe what you want. No need to drag it out across several threads and you will end up looking silly again.
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Man, I even posted a reply from Ryan saying them frames are invincible to the user. Lol you funny
Gregster thinks double Buffering 30fps gives him 60fps.
My god this is what we putting up with here.
Try reading PCM2 post also.
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IF they are trying to change someones mind then yeah they'll probably go all out but when it's a general opinion based on practices? Doesn't need a detective to go rummaging through Nvidia's bins. People can't prove every company is shady before having any suspicion ever. I suspect there's a few companies with sweat shops or bad practices that might not have it proven or shady banks but the fact we have banking crisis' and even 'premium' companies like Apple are sweatshop brands would mean that general suspicion is healthy. It's only if they're trying to convince you of it that they need evidence. Still I agree with you that if it's the usual suspects or whatnot then it is a different case.
there is plenty of evidence to accompany some of the accusations laid at Nvidia.
If a game is at 25 fps, G-Sync refreshes at 50Hz and inserts a double frame. I can't help it if you can't understand it.
I see I am still being shanked
Well then we will have to agree to disagree, as I am not going through this all again and this thread is about AMD's future. And with that, I honestly feel AMD are in trouble if the trend continues.
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If a game is at 25 fps, G-Sync refreshes at 50Hz and inserts a double frame. I can't help it if you can't understand it.
I see I am still being shanked
Well then we will have to agree to disagree, as I am not going through this all again and this thread is about AMD's future. And with that, I honestly feel AMD are in trouble if the trend continues.
Yes 50hz not 50fps.. The game will be running at 25fps but the display will refresh at 50hz.
You finally understand now..
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I understood all the time and you was the one getting all worked up
What did you think a double frame was for? That is why G-Sync is far superior to Freesync in the lower frames Anyway, that is my last word on that and I have had my digs at AMD, so will leave it there