Raped 10 year old forced to give birth

[spudbynight]

I wholeheartedly agree

I have that poster on ignore so won't see his posts. However, I think it is worth pointing out that you have made a logical error. This graphic explains why :

 

[OhEsEcks]

Has me on ignore because he doesn't like the truth and getting BTFO.

 

[spudbynight]

Oh dear you've got your knickers in a twist haven't you ...

I mentioned religion BECAUSE YOU QUOTED A SOURCE SAMPLED IN A PREDOMINATELY CATHOLIC COUNTRY.

Now you are being dishonest as well as bigoted.

LOLOLOLOL what a moronic way to approach things.

ARE YOU ALWAYS THIS STUPID OR JUST WHEN YOU SHOUT.

 

[OhEsEcks]

Oh dear you've got your knickers in a twist haven't you ...

I mentioned religion BECAUSE YOU QUOTED A SOURCE SAMPLED IN A PREDOMINATELY CATHOLIC COUNTRY.

And a source that admits to it's editor being a catholic and linked to several religious think tanks. It's a religious mouth piece.

 

[Xordium]

Except that body is half her body, is totally reliant on her to for all its gaseous exchange, nutrition and excretion. Her body will also be in all likelihood providing for the other body for a very long time. It will have a profound effect her physiological ability and psychological structure.

You do see things rather black and white.

 

[Xordium]

Now you are being dishonest as well as bigoted.

LOLOLOLOL what a moronic way to approach things.

ARE YOU ALWAYS THIS STUPID OR JUST WHEN YOU SHOUT.

So you've got not one answer to what I said ...

 

[spudbynight]

Except that body is half her body, is totally reliant on her to for all its gaseous exchange, nutrition and excretion. Her body will also be in all likelihood providing for the other body for a very long time. It will profounding effect her physiological ability and psychological structure.

You do see things rather black and white.

I see things honestly. Anyway, I don't think there is anything to be gained from me discussing this with you. You are not willing to engage rationally, anyway, I tried.

 

[Xordium]

I see things honestly. Anyway, I don't think there is anything to be gained from me discussing this with you. You are not willing to engage rationally, anyway, I tried.

Well have a good evening then.

 

[tbyeah]

Thanks for the bumper sticker philosophy there, we are all enlightened.

This ruins lives. Understand that. Learn about how you destroy the lives of women by actively denying them the choice to abort a baby that they will often despise, and despise themselves even more for being the victim.

Read about the effects this has on the lives of affected women. Objectively (if thats possible). See how this policy changes those whose hands are forced by it, the pre-pubescent girls who are forced to go through an undignified and agonising pregnancy to satisfy your morality, the victims of horrifying events like the rape of Nanking, mass infanticide that followed, people being forced to have an unwanted child to further someones agenda.

Maybe you'll even allow yourself a little self satisfied grin at the end as you think happily on all the good you're doing.

****.

 

[Janesy B]

So what kill the child?

You might be surprised at the amount of pro-life speakers who are the result of their mothers being raped.

What does that mean exactly? I don't follow.

 

[Mynight]

Horrific and I'm disgusted that she's not allowed a choice in it. Being so young she may have been able to grow up without a memory of it.

It's not a child until it's capable of supporting its own existence.

I personally hate pro life activists especially the ones who blockade abortion clinics.

 

[OhEsEcks]

LOL @ spudbynight talking about "rationality". You can't be very good at rationality when you're defending and arguing for the fact a ten year old rape victim can't or shouldn't have an abortion because your sky fairy condemns it. Get a grip you loon.

 

[tbyeah]

What does that mean exactly? I don't follow.

They are alive so they love their abused, raped, often psychologically damaged mothers for it. Often the love is absolutely not returned.

Then again, I wonder what the prolifers think about the infanticide that can occur after a birth due to rape, or the actual ****ing VICTIMS opinions??

 

[Pudney]

So much hypocrisy and black and white from both sides. And terrible thread title.

 

[Tosno]

As a dinosaur that has no interest in being modern and hip, I am against the murder of babies, especially murdering one what can survive outside the womb.

That's all I have to say on this matter.

 

[Xordium]

especially murdering one what can survive outside the womb.

Except they can't can they without massive medical intervention that doesn't necessarily lead to success or good outcomes. That is not to that is inevitable but your "can survive outside the womb" is again not really the whole truth is it.

 

[sports_brah]

Thanks for the bumper sticker philosophy there, we are all enlightened.

This ruins lives. Understand that. Learn about how you destroy the lives of women by actively denying them the choice to abort a baby that they will often despise, and despise themselves even more for being the victim.

Read about the effects this has on the lives of affected women. Objectively (if thats possible). See how this policy changes those whose hands are forced by it, the pre-pubescent girls who are forced to go through an undignified and agonising pregnancy to satisfy your morality, the victims of horrifying events like the rape of Nanking, mass infanticide that followed, people being forced to have an unwanted child to further someones agenda.

Maybe you'll even allow yourself a little self satisfied grin at the end as you think happily on all the good you're doing.

****.

And what about the profound psychological impact that abortion has on many women?

Also, out of curiosity, when is abortion no longer allowed in your opinion? What exact time and date after conception?

 

[sports_brah]

Savita Halappanava?

They used this case shamelessly in Ireland to pave the way for abortion.

Missing the fact that it wasn't the child that killed her........it was the obscenely lax medical care.

 

[tbyeah]

And what about the profound psychological impact that abortion has on many women?

Also, out of curiosity, when is abortion no longer allowed in your opinion? What exact time and date after conception?

I'm not saying force abortions, I'm saying make it a choice...

Abortion should no longer be allowed when it is more dangerous to abort than to give birth.

Also, to clarify, I haven't read much into the case here, views above are general anti-"You WILL have your child like it or not" which is damaging. extremely.

 

[Xordium]

Also, to clarify, I haven't read much into the case here, views above are general anti-"You WILL have your child like it or not" which is damaging. extremely.

This is one of the problems here with two entrenched camps. One seems to think if you don't agree with this ruling then you always want abortion and the other thinks if you want to call an obvious human a human for the purposes of basic rights you are then denying women "their rights". The fact is most people would tear themselves up inside weighing up all the rights and wrongs of what is a damaging exercise and time no matter what they chose. There are no easy solutions or answers and there will be profound damage either way. What you have to do is chose the lesser of the two evils and support people through that. Not flippantly be pro-abortion to the extreme you naively pretend you aren't terminating a human by performing dubious philosophical gymnastics and no being so pro-life that you focus on one moral wrong to the detriment of all the other considerations that may have a greater ethical weight.