Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[Gerard]

Was amusing how a rumoured price got jumped on by the fanbots like it was a set in stone price.

 

[ginjaninja]

I will be extremely disappointed if its only 4gb at launch...

its a bit of tinfoil hat suggestion...but perhaps NVIDIA forsaw that HBM1 single gpu designs were going to be limited to 4GB and thus by increasing their flag ship to 6/12GB will make a 4GB AMD flagship, even if it performs well against 4GB green gpus, not good enough.

A 980ti would be a good bit of product engineering/marketing if the amd performance card is much faster than 980, perhaps even faster than 980ti but buyers can be persuade to green team by the longevity of more RAM and other gameworks shenanigans.

Even IF AMD are able to achieve parity on noise and perhaps even slight improvement on performance with 980 @ 4GB, they would probably still need to be no more expensive to sway buyers. But given noise/performance hasnt generally been memory bandwidth limited in the past, you wouldnt bet on AMD+HBM1 right now...great for everyone if proved wrong..

Still feels like 2016 is a better time to upgrade GPU anyways...

 

[Davedree]

You'd expect her to at least stop the rot and stabilise things, from reading this forum and specifically the AMD driver thread over recent months things appear to have got much worse from an AMD customer point of view.

Give her a chance she's gotta clear up a lot inventory from previous f.ups, You can't expect her in a short period of time to correct the year on year of Amd F.up's from previous managment.
She's the strongest candidate Amd have had for a long time, give her 3 years to judge if she has made the right decisions.

 

[eddyr]

This sounds like marketing fud tbh, if it were so easy to get improvements that way they would have done it a long time ago, instead of reducing their profits margins with extra memory. Even if it's not fud they aren't going to make anywhere near 4GB worth (effectively 100% more efficient) of enhancements.

The actual point (made better in other articles) was nott that it is cheap and easier to throw memory at the problem. It was that it was not an immediate concern because a by product of increasing bandwidth by increasing the bus width was an increase in memory capacity as you add RAM dies for the additional controllers. I'm not involved in the industry but I am aware that engineers are expensive, so it seems a plausible enough explanation from a return on investment perspective.

 

[Mal X]

Decided to hang onto my TX until these 3XX cards launch. It might lose a bit more value but at least I will be able to see if there any decent performance / price alternatives before deciding to sell.

Plus I think Mal is right, down the road we could see Witcher 3 become better on PC VS console so it might be worth having a high end card. Just the price and fact I'm now on 1080P seems like overkill. Oh well, I've already got the card no point worrying about it until 3XX cards appear. 980 Ti is rumoured for Computex launch as well. So could be a lot of different options soon.

1080P is overkill but not if you suddenly buy a 4K TV, because 4K wont do native 1080p ...........only 4k upscaled which isn't as good as 1080p, only pure 4k is any good and only really at Close Range.

the choice of tv dictates everything you decide to do in the next 6 months, so although this is off topic with regards to the 390X, it's the most important thing to get right.

what about Titan X ????? it doesn't matter you already have this card, you can always buy another one at Xmas....BUT..........a 390X2 Dual will be cheaper at Xmas, so this will need considering too.

i'm hoping this Dual card is a real monster........

 

[Ayahuasca]

because 4K wont do native 1080p

 

[Orangey]

>native 1080p

There's that phrase again.

 

[benjii]

1080P is overkill but not if you suddenly buy a 4K TV, because 4K wont do native 1080p ...........only 4k upscaled which isn't as good as 1080p, only pure 4k is any good and only really at Close Range

Yeah... no... what?

 

[DavidS14]

I wonder if Nvidia looked at the trade offs for HBM1 (GPU fast enough to use all of the available bandwidth/capacity limitations) and decided that a memory/clock speed push on the current tech would be a better bet until HBM2.

AMD on the other hand maybe thought that the best way to get market share/publicity etc. was to be first to market with the new tech and argue about any of the limitations later.

We'll have to see who may have been right but it has hurt AMD having a longer product cycle to get the new tech ready.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AMD has been working on stacked memory for years - there were prototype board pictures leaked a few years ago.

 

[Tonester0011]

Does Mal think because he games on a 55" TV....everyone does?
Nearly every post of his is mentioning gaming on a TV, some drivel about 4k etc.

 

[Ayahuasca]

You need to sit 1 foot away from a 70 inch LG tonester and make sure it's pure 4k not upscaled.

 

[Gerard]

The actual point (made better in other articles) was nott that it is cheap and easier to throw memory at the problem. It was that it was not an immediate concern because a by product of increasing bandwidth by increasing the bus width was an increase in memory capacity as you add RAM dies for the additional controllers. I'm not involved in the industry but I am aware that engineers are expensive, so it seems a plausible enough explanation from a return on investment perspective.

And presumably the optomised frame buffer utilisation will also have an affect on other cards as well.

 

[Mal X]

1080P is overkill but not if you suddenly buy a 4K TV, because 4K wont do native 1080p ...........only 4k upscaled which isn't as good as 1080p, only pure 4k is any good and only really at Close Range.
..

DAMN IT
once you buy a 4K TV you've had it.... it'll either upscale what you give it to 4K, or you'll have to feed it a 4K Signal...........1080p wont look that good on a 4k tv, it'll be slightly blurry

 

[Mal X]

Does Mal think because he games on a 55" TV....everyone does?
Nearly every post of his is mentioning gaming on a TV, some drivel about 4k etc.

you dont have 4k because you live in a garden shed and sign on the dole every week, you probably voted Labour as well

 

[Uncle Petey]

Oh dear...

 

[Tonester0011]

Pretty sure i have 4k, might have been missold though. Looks **** when you look at it 1 foot away

 

[drunkenmaster]

This sounds like marketing fud tbh, if it were so easy to get improvements that way they would have done it a long time ago, instead of reducing their profits margins with extra memory. Even if it's not fud they aren't going to make anywhere near 4GB worth (effectively 100% more efficient) of enhancements.

More memory has very obviously increased margins. By letting daft users buy into their future paranoia about lack of memory(even though the vast majority will be on different gpus by the time they need more memory) they manage to have their normal card, then a card with double the memory for a WAY higher increase in cost than the memory alone is worth.

Switching from 256MB chips to 512MB chips doesn't cost £100, nothing remotely close to that, every penny over the actual cost of the increased capacity chips which in most cases requires absolutely no changes to the pcb, is extra profit.

 

[ubersonic]

Can anyone whos been reading the thread please tell me if it's known or strongly rumoured what kinda power consumption is expected of the 390X?

GTX980 level? HD7950 level? 280X level? 290X level? worse?

 

[Tonester0011]

390X level iirc.
Glad to have been of help!