Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[Marine-RX179]

Im starting to think this as well. Nvidia selling off titan X chips that didnt pass QA and labeling them 980TIs which is why performance is the same.

Titan X has always been a 980Ti 12GB to begin with...they were just charge a huge price premium simply by calling it a "Titan"...

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Ive had no probelms at all with AMDs drivers myself.

 

[tonyli3]

I think a lot of people are blowing AMD's overall support etc. out of proportion lately. Yes the crossfire support has sucked and general communication has been poor for the last 6 months, however:

- single gpu users have had no/little problems with games in the last 6 months except a couple of games (?) i.e. project cars
- crossfire support has been lacking for a handful of games, project cars, TW 3 (both of which are fixed now?), dying light (think this was fixed not long after release?), elite, anything else?
- lack of crossfire freesync support, no excuse for this really, other than AMD are having issues to get it working "well"

Nvidia are far from perfect:

- quite a few users are still getting micro stutter with gsync and SLI
- the last 2 drivers have caused stability issues with crashing
- keplar GPU's not performing as they should for several (?) titles (which is apparently fixed now?)
- with the latest update, apparently 780 owners have noticed an improvement in TW 3 but titan x owners have noticed worse performance

And I'm sure that there must be some games that users have issues with, be it with single or SLI.

I think once AMD get the 390x out things will return to normal or at least speed up, to me it just seems like that and DX 12/windows 10 has been taking up most of their time and money.

Mirror my own thoughts really,good post.
Tri-x I've been using for around 11/2 years has been flawless really,can't remember a game that's crashed or had problems during that time,I don't get stutter etc,only annoying exception was recent pcars problem,I've used so many nvidia and ati/amd cards over last 16 years or so I've lost count!but have no hang ups at moment with amd.
One thing I'd say though I have never used sli or crossfire and unlikely I will either,but crossfire problems appear the biggest thing people are angry at,so I can't comment on that.

 

[-Mike-]

Ive had no probelms at all with AMDs drivers myself.

I'll agree with that. I've also never been sold a card with some funky arrangement of memory before by AMD.

 

[SiDeards73]

I'm in exactly the same position as you, needing new monitor and GPU, though I also have a clockwork Q6600 to change out. I think the 980ti is the first exciting card in a long time (the flawed but brutal 295x2 at £500 excepted), but I've not done an upgrade in about 5 years, so can wait another few weeks to see what AMD come out with.

I generally root for the underdog so hope AMD nail it with their next round of cards, but let's see what turns up.

I feel the same Mulps, i normally buy AMD for GPU as i prefer their products over Shady Nvidia. I bought a 4770k not long ago, upgraded from an i5 2500k, cant say i really noticed massive improvement however the i7 feels snappier and smoother in general than my old i5, but that 2500k was a stonking chip, i have a Q6600 prior to that though and that was a beast as well.

Only thing worrying me with AMD is going to a freesync screen as most of them dont exactly fill me with awe, the BenQ is decent, i had massive hopes for the Asus IPS 1440p 144hz but it seemed to be doomed with failures and ive seen no news of any more decent freesync screens coming, the Acer has had horrendous stories of stuck pixels and negative customer support experiences etc.

Anyhow, i was massively interested in seeing AMD's VR card, which i guess will be the evolution of the 295x2, but also in the back of my mind is this is 1st gen HBM, hopefully it will be 8gb, and with DX12 coming im sure the card will hold out well until the HBM 2nd gen stuff starts arriving.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I just think they've got a nerve, as they've been shafting their customers since the Omegas came out, and now they are upping their prices, thats just taking the absoute ****.

 

[Squink]

Only thing worrying me with AMD is going to a freesync screen as most of them dont exactly fill me with awe, the BenQ is decent, i had massive hopes for the Asus IPS 1440p 144hz but it seemed to be doomed with failures and ive seen no news of any more decent freesync screens coming, the Acer has had horrendous stories of stuck pixels and negative customer support experiences etc.

Yeah there's no 'stand out' freesync monitor yet - I want IPS, 1440P and 144hz (i.e. I want it all ) so the Asus seemed perfect, but the to-ing and fro-ing about it in the monitors section is a bit worrying. Hopefully they can sort out the issues before it's released but I'm concerned.

The trouble is, a decent monitor is the most important part of a system and will outlast any other component. There's a better range of GSYNC monitors just now, I just don't want to get funneled into nVidia because of it. If it's the best option, that's what I'll do though.

 

[Gerard]

I just think they've got a nerve, as they've been shafting their customers since the Omegas came out, and now they are upping their prices, thats just taking the absoute ****.

Because some random rumour says they're upping prices its set in stone fact all of a sudden. Only time amd have has cards for a really high price was the 7990 and 295x2 and they didn't stay that price for long. I don't see a single gpu card being close to these "halo prices".

 

[Nexus18]

Is there not a better range of freesync monitors? Last time I checked on ocuk, there were 10 freesync monitors (a decent choice of panel tech, brands etc. as well) and 7 gsync monitors. I know there have just been 7 new gsync monitors announced although only by acer and asus... And I suspect that we will see a few new freesync screens announced this week too.

In the long run, there will be a lot more freesync choice imo as gsync has been out for over a year where as freesync has only been out for a couple of months if that and already has more at this moment.

Gsync has got a better range though but I expect future freesync monitors to improve (hopefully...), apparently LG have changed their 21.9 freesync range from 48-75 to 40-75.

I hope it does, and i really hope they have a cracker of a card on their hands, but i just can't see it.

We will just have to wait and see, either way, even if AMD can't quite match the 980ti and price it similarly, it should drop the 980ti price even further

My thoughts atm are:

- nvidia must know that the 390x is going to be pretty damn good as why else would they release the 980ti at that price and pretty much give the finger to TX owners and more or less kill the TX of, are nvidia worried about what AMD have? Are they trying to grab as many customers as possible?

But at the same time....

- if AMD did have something really good, why don't they leak or announce something to steal the 980ti's thunder? Surely if they had something really good, they would have said/given some info?!


One thing I am thoroughly looking forward to is seeing how these HBM cards are regarding power efficiency, heat and temps as didn't a few people say that it should be quite a bit better than even the 980/970? If they are, I wonder if all the people who went on about the superior power efficiency etc. of the 980/970 compared to the 290/290x will still regard that as a massive advantage...

 

[MrMD]

Arnt they taking the power savings from the switch to HBM and re-investing it in more stream-processors and higher clock speeds?So in the end it will be of similar pwr consumption and heat out put as a 290/290x/780ti/titan/titan-x

All the top end cards have similar characteristics when it comes to heat/wattage,just the 290x ref cooler was so bad people just assumed the nvidia cards used less power were cooler ect.Its all smoke and mirrors.
Top end cards are power hungry,and frankly the people buying them couldnt care less about 30-50w lol

 

[flopper]

Yeah there's no 'stand out' freesync monitor yet - I want IPS, 1440P and 144hz (i.e. I want it all ) so the Asus seemed perfect, but the to-ing and fro-ing about it in the monitors section is a bit worrying. Hopefully they can sort out the issues before it's released but I'm concerned.

The trouble is, a decent monitor is the most important part of a system and will outlast any other component. There's a better range of GSYNC monitors just now, I just don't want to get funneled into nVidia because of it. If it's the best option, that's what I'll do though.

buy more powerful card dont really need freesync then
I would say a good chair is the vital important part of a computer.
Its still early with freesync as any new tech its going to be issues at first until they are ironed out.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Not sure I'd get excited about heat/temps yet when the leaks we've seen make it seem like it requires liquid cooling. The 295x2's AIO wasn't actually superb either, most people required putting 2 louder/faster fans on the rad to stop it throttling.

I hope I'm wrong and the new design is excellent and with it only being single core shouldn't be as difficult.

buy more powerful card dont really need freesync then

lol

Please read how the tech works before making silly comments like this.

 

[Squink]

Gsync has got a better range though but I expect future freesync monitors to improve (hopefully...), apparently LG have changed their 21.9 freesync range from 48-75 to 40-75.

If I'm being honest I haven't *fully* researched it, but have noticed that freesync monitors aren't all equal in terms of the refresh rates at which it operates. I'd like them all to work from 30-144 ideally, but some monitors appear to start at 40+. I feel it's the frames below 40 that need the freesync love most of all.

 

[Nexus18]

If I'm being honest I haven't *fully* researched it, but have noticed that freesync monitors aren't all equal in terms of the refresh rates at which it operates. I'd like them all to work from 30-144 ideally, but some monitors appear to start at 40+. I feel it's the frames below 40 that need the freesync love most of all.

Yeah supposedly it is down to the monitor manufacturer and the scaler used.

I agree completely, the range needs to go down to 30.

ASUS had the choice of using a freesync range of 35-90 or 40-144 on their IPS 144hz screen.

Arnt they taking the power savings from the switch to HBM and re-investing it in more stream-processors and higher clock speeds?So in the end it will be of similar pwr consumption and heat out put as a 290/290x/780ti/titan/titan-x

All the top end cards have similar characteristics when it comes to heat/wattage,just the 290x ref cooler was so bad people just assumed the nvidia cards used less power were cooler ect.Its all smoke and mirrors.
Top end cards are power hungry,and frankly the people buying them couldnt care less about 30-50w lol

But but but.....

the 70/90w difference between the 290 and 970 would save you a whopping £50 over 2 years!!! Yes people did actually use that argument in the power efficiency thread

No idea, I haven't really followed the rumours for this card, just remember someone, I think boomstick saying how these will be new gen and much better for power efficiency etc.

Myself, I couldn't really care less as long as the bang per buck is there, although running cooler and quieter is a nice "bonus".

 

[MrMD]

Yes people did actually use that argument in the power efficiency thread

No idea, I haven't really followed the rumours for this card, just remember someone, I think boomstick saying how these will be new gen and much better for power efficiency etc.

Myself, I couldn't really care less as long as the bang per buck is there, although running cooler and quieter is a nice "bonus".

This is an argument i have seen in the past lol

Im in the same boat,bang for buck.Although i fear even the 390x might not quite deliver on the front for me ,at £500ish i would want a significant bump from my oc 970 to make it justifiable.

MOAR POWER PLEASE,dont care about heat,it would go into my loop

 

[Martini1991]

yeah...

Its self destructive.

Shocker as AMD can't execute.

 

[flopper]

Please read how the tech works before making silly comments like this.

if you have Nvidia cards obviously you need gsync to fix the choppy gameplay.

 

[r7slayer]

Why are people proper bashing AMD drivers? Mainly seems like Nvidia people tbh cos I see same ppl bashing as same ppl posting about problems in Nvidia driver thread tbh. Love how Nvidia people know more about the state of drivers for which thy dont have installed or use. For me AMD drivers have been superb for single card. Not used xfire pre 12 cataylst so dnt knw scaling or profiles. Seems to be more Nvidia people bashing tho and supposedly AMD xfire users jumping ship lol.

 

[Ayahuasca]

if you have Nvidia cards obviously you need gsync to fix the choppy gameplay.

Nice troll attempt, why is it you seem to be able to get away with this without any suspension? Does the 3 strike rule not apply to raging AMD fanboys?

 

[AthlonXP1800]

First pic of Fiji GPU die with HBM

http://wccftech.com/exclusive-amd-radeon-fury-fiji-gpu-die-pictured/