Jaguar XE unveiled

Looking at the white car I think 2 things. Like the wheel arches and shut lines look a bit obvious to me. I'm also not a fan of the bonnet to bumper shut line, like my 5 series.
 
Sorry should have been more specific EU6b for existing car that drives significant aftertreatment with urea dosing. This comes into effect in September. However new cars required it last year as part of their emission homologation.
 
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Joe T said:
Fox is getting old! :p

Just wait for a 3 cylinder powerplant to arrive in the 3 series! :p

Dont forget the efficiency gains (and hence environmental impact, and lower reliance on fossil fuels) from smaller engines.

Also you can now get the power out of a 4 pot that you would have gotten not that many years ago from a 6 pot. My old 330d is now pretty much equaled by a new 320d. Sure the refinement isnt quite there, but even the 4 pots are getting more refined all the time.

And yes, I agree on perceived prestige. None of the big 3 are retaining any real prestige any more in my opinion. Prestige = the new mainstream. I wonder how far it will go. :(
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Sorry, I'm with Fox on this and own a petrol 330i E91.
Rarely gets driven hard and to it's capibilities, but is lovely to waft around in.
As we don't do many miles, real world savings of moving to a diesel really aren't that brilliant.

The good news is that the s/h market seems to have realised the benefits of a fairly low stress, non-turbo inline six engine, and the depreciation on these seems to have bottomed out and be holding up really well. Typical market price for my car appears to be in the region of £3k less than I paid for it three years ago, which would be one of the lowest depreciating cars I've owned.
 
I took the Sport out for a test drive today.
The car drove ok felt sure on the road but I think that the boot is a bit small and the passenger space at the back is a tad small too.
 
I also had a test drive of the R Sport model, generally the leg and headroom rear space was pretty tight. The cars are well spec'd as standard with lots of tech and nice materials.
The problem I have is they market it as built from lightweight aluminium, which it is, but Jaguar can't seem to transfer the weight saving body to the whole car. The car is around 100kg heavier than the equivilent 3 Series.
 
Does it feel more "premium" and well isolated than the 3? I'd be pretty willing to accept a weight increase if it meant the refinement had taken a big step up
 
Like you said.... Well specced as standard means the base kerb weight suffers. Also the double wishbone front and integral link rear suspension are basically from the segment above.

In reality mixed materials should be employed rather than this very high ally content USP we seem to be pushing.
 
I don't know since the BMW facelift and sat nav as standard. Does matter though as the Jag is significantly the better car :p seems the 320d ED has increased in price at the LCI?
 
It always does, you think that extra equipment as standard comes for free? It just increases the base price of the car and further ruins the second hand market (Try finding a car with Pro Nav used now the crap-nav version is free or a used F10 with vis pack since 2013).
 
At list price, there are huge discounts available. Though the 520d has always been the better value buy, at one point it was cheaper than a similar spec 320d.
 
[TW]Fox;27955383 said:
But it's not about the power - it's about how it's delivered. A 4 pot will NEVER do that as well as a 6 pot does.

BMW know this which is why in 2011 when the new 4 cylinder turbo petrol range appeared in the 5 Series they reintroduced the 530i 6 cylinder as well. This offered 272bhp instead of the 245bhp from the Turbo 4, but with poorer fuel economy and slightly lower performance. But it was there because they know that a 6 > 4 and hoped they could sell enough to people who appreciate this.

The result?

They sold hardly any of them and 95% of those they did sell were beige SE's with bizarre specifications clearly bought by older customers.

The 530i was withdrawn a few years later.

Hats off to BMW for trying.
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I can attest to this. I spent months trying to find a 530i. The ones available were, as Fox says...crap.
 
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