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Exclusive: AMD considering to spin off GPU business

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If this is true (pinch of salt) it might be a very bad thing in the short term.

How many of the patents and IP's are shared across the business? I am sure if the GPU business was spun off they would not be allowed to retain all the tech and RD that the CPU/APU use as well. So the question would be, Who would want to buy a company that has one arm chopped off from the get go.

If that was the case, then innovation with the GPU market might be stifled as the new company tries to innovate.
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I think AMD seriously need to look at their image.

You can not help what you look like but you can do something about how you dress.

For me this was a bit of a shocker for a product launch as I have seen better dressed bricklayers.

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Casual is ok but something has gone seriously wrong here.

Leather Jacket would top that off nicely :p
 
lol, that was quite funny for you, Kaap :D.


I think Lisa Su is very switched on personally, her presence on stage was welcomed. Some others on the other hand. I think Richard is equally as switched on but there are people who present and people who equally can't present. I'm not saying it's easy, but there it is.
 
I been building PC's for 18 year's and out all them years AMD has only ever made a single cpu range (The Athlons) that could match or beat the intel CPU's at the time


What makes Lisa Su think AMD can even build a CPU that can match or beat intel CPU's of today ? ;)

AMD did not directly compete with intel until 1991. 18 years would put you back to 1997 which is around the time they were pretty successful. A reason for this could be the accurate quote of:

During this period Intel became the dominant supplier of microprocessors for PCs, and was known for aggressive and sometimes illegal tactics in defense of its market position, particularly against Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)
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If I remember right, The ATI openGL drivers back in my ATI 9800pro AIW days were terrible

I had the 9800pro too and it was one of the best cards to own at the time. Along with the GeForce 8800GT value out of these were great and I dont remember having driver issues. Maybe it was the AIW version?
 
I think AMD seriously need to look at their image.

You can not help what you look like but you can do something about how you dress.

For me this was a bit of a shocker for a product launch as I have seen better dressed bricklayers.

Casual is ok but something has gone seriously wrong here.

lol, that was quite funny for you, Kaap :D.


I think Lisa Su is very switched on personally, her presence on stage was welcomed. Some others on the other hand. I think Richard is equally as switched on but there are people who present and people who equally can't present. I'm not saying it's easy, but there it is.

I like her personality, and that she shows a lot of passion.
Besides, not like the NVIDIA CEO dresses well either. :p

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AMD has the world leading tech for sure.
What they failed to do is two things, management and Marketing.

Its no use if your the best in the world if the customer cant understand that due to flawed marketing which is a must needed thing to get going for AMD.
Lisa Su understands that and why she is moving stones.

I almost swallowed my ****ing tounge there. I am stuck in work on a Saturday and badly in eed of a laugh, please explain.
 
You guys love your GPU's lol.

I buy what makes sense at the time and what I can afford to personally justify. AMD did well back in the day with the FX chips but CPU wise have faltered since then. GPU's are the better prospect but AMD do seem to be slow at times. I bought the 7970 when it first launched and it was great but then a month later the price crashed and my £420 card was now being bought for £270, which was not a worry but showed that they was losing market share and needed to compete. They certainly have a stigma that hangs over them and a little unjustified as I have owned Nvidia and AMD all through my PC life and 3DFX when they were still going.

AMD just need a break and to lose the stigma that hangs over them to be trading blows with Nvidia. I hope they get it and the guy who said Nvidia fans are hoping AMD die would be something really stupid and only a fool would think like that!

Maybe AMD concentrating on GPU's would be a blessing for everyone who buys PC hardware?
 
A great idea but a bit late, AMD buying ATi was the worst thing to happen to both companies.


If I remember right, The ATI openGL drivers back in my ATI 9800pro AIW days were terrible

Not as bad as the AMD OpenGL drivers during the Rage launch :D (Nvidia's weren't much better).
 
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This rumor might have some legs, stock is up 10% this week.
I've no doubt the story is factually correct, even if it was plainly planted by one of AMD's rivals (not hard to guess which one) who counted on it causing a firestorm because most people reading it don't understand how big corporations work.

But a factually correct story can still be a pile of steaming nonsense. In the basement of the Pentagon there is almost certainly a regularly updated set of plans for an invasion of the UK, just in case such a thing should ever be necessary. Their existence is completely irrelevant but they mean a story headlined 'US planning to invade UK!' would not be incorrect.

No doubt AMD has engaged consultants to report on every possible scenario for turning the company around. And one option they'll consider is a break up - it's their job to explore every avenue and devise plans to make it happen if the CEO chooses to go that way, even if everyone involved knows full well it'll never happen because it would be disastrous for the company. But said rival will know that 99% of people reading the story won't understand how these things work and will only read the words 'AMD' and 'Break up'. Job done. They've caused uncertainty, possibly hurt AMD's sales a little and given management and PR another fire to fight.

The reality is AMD are not going to break up. The reason they bought ATi is even more relevant today than it was then; APUs are the future. The consoles have been a very vivid demonstration of the potential of the concept, even if AMD has not yet managed to fulfil that potential in the main PC/Laptop market. PC APUs haven't succeeded so far because AMD has not had good enough technology - the slow, power-hungry Bulldozer derived cores and DDR3's lack of bandwidth ensure an APU ends up as just a slow CPU with mediocre graphics performance.

But next year the technology should all finally be in place. Imagine an APU with a 2000-shader iGPU, four x64 Zen cores and 1-2GB of HBM2 backed up by dual-channel DDR4, something that would give performance similar to an i5 with a 280X. By the time 16nm hits volume production AMD will have this, or something very similar, ready to go. Such a chip wouldn't just be a great product, it would fundamentally change the market (and not coincidentally be an existential threat that NVidia have no way of countering, short of selling out to Intel - this is why NV is firing all guns right now, they have to knock AMD down within the next year or so otherwise the green team's strategic position becomes very grim indeed).

Of course this depends of the Zen architecture being reasonably competitive with Intel. If it isn't no break up or spin-off will save AMD.
 
wow I thought we'd moved beyond criticising women in leadership roles for what they wear...ultimately, get the job done better than anyone else and I don't care what you wear

Now complaining about the colour scheme of a motherboard or obnoxious design on a graphics card I can understand
 
AMD as a company are pretty much done. They have fallen far too behind Intel in the CPU space, they simply cannot compete with the finances of Intel and Nvidia. A sell off is the only possible solution that they can survive, hopefully someone like Samsung can buy them and inject a large amount of cash into R&D.

I personally think Zen will be another Bulldozer next year and the R300 GPU are just a joke. 2 years wait for a re brand, that offers little improvement and cost almost the same amount. Fury a top of the range GPU with 4GB of Vram... :rolleyes:
 

Great post. Thank you.

It was only when I saw the Fury Nano that I realised the killer feature of HBM is actually the new compact forms that it will enable. It's the last piece of the jigsaw for AMD's APUs and should make them an attractive prospect for a variety of applications.
 
Now debating on what attire AMD employees wear? And their looks? Is their anything you guys will try to have a dig at AMD for lol? Next you'll be talking about how they dress their kids. What cars they drive, the aftershave or perfume they use. Good lord how people have lost their way. Show us the light please!
 
wow I thought we'd moved beyond criticising women in leadership roles for what they wear...

We have, it is you who brought that up.:D

If you read my previous post I did not mention women lol.

I did show a pic of the AMD CEO but my comments would have been equally apt if it was a man in the pic.

I don't normally have a problem with how the AMD CEO dresses but on this occasion it looked like she had just walked off a building site, something which is not good for a product launch.
 
Shocking, guys. Absolutely shocking.

Being a woman CEO is hard enough. Being the female CEO of an ailing technology firm, a field dominated even more so by men, really takes some chutzpah.

Give Dr. Su some credit. She's been doing some much needed arse kicking since October.
 
Great post. Thank you.

It was only when I saw the Fury Nano that I realised the killer feature of HBM is actually the new compact forms that it will enable. It's the last piece of the jigsaw for AMD's APUs and should make them an attractive prospect for a variety of applications.

It is quite a major thing, the Rage Fury Nano is sexy as hell. It was about time that GPU's started getting smaller. We can see that GDDR caused them to grow in size over the past decade.

The pc landscape may have a dramatic shift in the next few years with HBM. I can see the next consoles being far smaller if they have Zen APU's with HBM. It would not surprise me if the next Nintendo has a HBM APU.
 
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