Charged for garden waste

In Gloucester they get charged. It's ridiculous. If I go to the tip as well there are massive queues, mostly from people with garden waste. Councils want to be greener yet then expect everyone else to pay the bill. They make bins smaller, expect us to do the recycling for them (and they make money on this) and then charge us more each year.

When the plague of rats hits, like in the game Dishonoured, no doubt it won't be due to the new monthly bin collections but due to aliens or such like.

If you're removing services or making services worse then you should lower the amount we have to pay for said services.


M.
 
Lincolnshire is in its second year of charging now, it's around £25-30 iirc

Collections alternate once a fortnight for general waste and then recycling/garden waste
 
In Gloucester they get charged. It's ridiculous. If I go to the tip as well there are massive queues, mostly from people with garden waste. Councils want to be greener yet then expect everyone else to pay the bill. They make bins smaller, expect us to do the recycling for them (and they make money on this) and then charge us more each year.

When the plague of rats hits, like in the game Dishonoured, no doubt it won't be due to the new monthly bin collections but due to aliens or such like.

If you're removing services or making services worse then you should lower the amount we have to pay for said services.


M.

Hello fellow Glostafarian. Yeah the tips are always packed and having garden waste in the car makes me sneeze.
 
Garden waste is free here.

We don't use it much because we have our own compost heap, which seems able to absorb everything. Not had to do much to it in 6 years.
 
In the Hunts DC area we have a grey wheelie bin for household waste, a blue bin for recycling and green bin for garden/kitchen waste. we got a second blue bin for free due to being a family of 5. All this is under normal council tax. They do offer a second green waste bin for an additional cost of around £40.
 
I believe they charge in Warwickshire. I get a weekly gardener as part of my rent agreement, however, so I've never needed to worry.
 
Just use your family's bin instead.

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In Gloucester they get charged. It's ridiculous. If I go to the tip as well there are massive queues, mostly from people with garden waste. Councils want to be greener yet then expect everyone else to pay the bill. They make bins smaller, expect us to do the recycling for them (and they make money on this) and then charge us more each year.

When the plague of rats hits, like in the game Dishonoured, no doubt it won't be due to the new monthly bin collections but due to aliens or such like.

If you're removing services or making services worse then you should lower the amount we have to pay for said services.


M.

How much do you think you're paying for waste collections out of your CT and therefore how much of a reduction are you looking for?

Also what do you mean by "expect us to do the recycling for them", are you suggesting there should be a personal assistant supplied to very house who you give your rubbish to and he does it?
 
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Don't they make money by turning your garden waste into compost anyway ?

MW

Do you seriously think selling a few bags of compost pulls in more money than running the £150k vehicles that do 4 miles to the gallon, the 2 or 3 full time crew members, gate fees and EFW plant fees required to collect it?

So no, councils do not "make" money by selling compost.
 
They can, if you're happy with them spending less on social care.

"Sorry Mrs Smith, we're going to have to sack your carer because we need that money so a minority of residents can have free garden waste collections"

By the way that is a pound a week PER household, it doesn't cost the council a quid a week to clear the entire city/town of waste.

My council are wasting millions replacing street lights, and in most cases, the whole light post, for LED lights. It is going to take 10 years to break even. And to top it off they got a private company doing it which no doubt the top councillors have shares in.

Yes I know you said it is £1 per household and not the whole town, but garden waste is not mandatory, so give the people who want it as it is now but without the extra fee.

A few years ago, you could get a roll of 10 decomposable sacks from the council for 50p for garden waste. All you had to do was leave them at the edge of your property on a certain day every fortnight and they would be collected. You could put 1 out or the whole 10 in one go. I actually saw more people using these than I do now since they moved to the garden waste wheelie bin.
 
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My council are wasting millions replacing street lights, and in most cases, the whole light post, for LED lights. It is going to take 10 years to break even. And to top it off they got a private company doing it which no doubt the top councillors have shares in.

I'm sure when they replaced Victorian Gas Lamps people like you called that a "waste of money" as well.

Yes I know you said it is £1 per household and not the whole town, but garden waste is not mandatory, so give the people who want it as it is now but without the extra fee.

I don't you get this at all. It costs the council A LOT of money to be able to offer that service. To provide it they would be taking a seven figure sum away from something else more important.
 
estebanrey you heading to the LARAC conference in October? I'm having lots of fun at work at the moment writing the new waste contract and trying to hit 50% by 2020, if people think recycling is hard now wait until 2020! Your all in for a shock....
 
I'm sure when they replaced Victorian Gas Lamps people like you called that a "waste of money" as well.

Bet it wasn't the same as it is now. For a start there was less than half the amount of lamp posts in the town as there are now. Also didn't have care workers in those days to pay for as people looked after their own elderly/sick relatives. Or Tory cuts.
 
Is that payment included in your council tax or is it a one off payment? If they dont collect green waste do you still have to pay?
 
My council are wasting millions replacing street lights, and in most cases, the whole light post, for LED lights. It is going to take 10 years to break even. And to top it off they got a private company doing it which no doubt the top councillors have shares in.

The running cost of a lamp post isn't just the post/bulb and electricity, but the number of times they'll have to be serviced, IIRC LED bulbs should last longer than CFL and other types (how long depends on the bulb type).

So if you only look at the saving in electricity (which is where a lot of the "it'll take years to pay for itself" arguments come in), you only get part of the story, even if it just saves a couple of visits for replacement bulbs over the space of 10 years that is a fairly big chunk of money (mainly in the time of the maintenance crews).

I think one of the reasons they sometimes change the whole post rather than just the bulb is that the lamp posts probably have a recommended design life, or may no longer be made in that style and thus no spares, or the compatible spares are priced such that it's not worth fitting them to a post that is already 10, 20 or 30 years old.
You also have the logistical issues involved - it's probably cheaper to replace a bunch of older model posts and cut the number of different types of spares/designs in use than to keep the parts for them all (especially as newer units can include additional features as standard that had to be retrofitted to older ones).

Our local council replaced a lot of the street lamps around here about 10 years ago, taking down what were obviously older models, and I was slightly surprised when upon reporting one (of the previous generation) posts that was near me for being damaged, the council had a team out within a couple of hours who cut it down (and sealed the stump), then about a week later a team fitted one of the latest models that the council were using. I expected them to simply replace the damaged inspection hatch and repair the wiring.
 
Also new LED units have a lot of sensors in and a ton of m2m stuff for reporting faults, dimming as the sun comes up rather than just switching off etc etc. The energy savings are huge, not to mention the improved quality of light reducing accidents and making people feel safer.
 
I agree with estebanrey.

I also work in the waste industry (private sector) and we get paid to take the council's waste and recycle it to earn even more.The council get nothing back from us and to the poster that said the council send cardboard/plastic etc to Netherlands.It is actually us that send it to places like that china being one of them and we profit from it.To give an example a bale of aluminum goes for £1000 per tonne. And it's all free so the council has to recoup some of the money some way
 
If anyone watched Wastemen on the BBC the other week, you would have seen where they send bales of cardboard abroad and the council has to foot the cost of sending it. If it has a value then the council should be selling it and not giving it away for free. Unless the top councillors have shares in the foreign company that burns them, no doubt.
 
If anyone watched Wastemen on the BBC the other week, you would have seen where they send bales of cardboard abroad and the council has to foot the cost of sending it. If it has a value then the council should be selling it and not giving it away for free. Unless the top councillors have shares in the foreign company that burns them, no doubt.

Sigh....

Did you not read the post above? Council's generally don't own the disposal plants, they are private businesses and they are the ones who do the work and then rightfully make a profit on selling it when they have processed it.

Where does this idea that everything council's do is somehow dodgy and corrupt? Does it make you feel better about paying Council Tax or something?

I can't speak for other authorities but if you want to know just how stringent against any type of bribery ours is, we were given a Christmas Hamper by the company that supplies our PPE and our head of service made us give it to charity. I worked for plenty of private companies and I've seen far more "management going on golfing holidays paid by their suppliers" type activity in them than I have since working for the council.
 
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