Another muslim terror attack - France
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That was very bad. But more people have been killed by muslims in Paris then what that nutter did.
If you think any of those things were anything to do with religion you are naive.
Leader: "How do we motivate people to do our bidding?"
Advisor: "Tell them God told them to do it!"
Leader: "Fantastic"
Rwanda 1994 Catholic and Anglican priests assisting in genocide.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/07/rwanda-genocide-20-years-priests-catholic-church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanase_Seromba
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What difference does it make if it's recent or not? They're all examples of a minority of people using religion as an excuse for violence, throughout the history of humanity.
My point was that turning this incident into an argument against Islam is erroneous and ignorant.
Lol you are telling me the crusades had nothing to do with religion? ok
Both George Bush and Tony Blair had "god" tell them to go and bomb iraq to smithereens.
Of course, religion is just a political tool to brainwash and manipulate the ignorant.
It's funny how people seem to lose their heads discussing radical Islam.
Us Christians had our time too, invaded south America (and most of the world tbh) and massacred millions in the idea of religion. We also used our fair share of floggings, hung drawn and quartered, flaying etc.
Luckily the world is a much more civilised place now, however with the media coverage and social media of today, we see and hear about it all and it ****es us off.
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For all we know the person who committed this attack may be suffering from a mental illness. The fact they are (assumed to be) a Muslim may be coincidental.
Lol considering Christianity played a huge role in European civilisations including contrary to secularist revision, Christians played a big role in the Renaissance. It's easy to just blame everything on religion.
A lot of Mexican drug cartels are very religios Christians who carry out similar brutal actions to ISIS.
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If you can find a single verse in the New Testament KJV that encourages violence by a Christian toward a non-Christian, either killing, persecution or even name calling, then I will eat my New Testament.
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Unfortunately, people (the media especially) like to give labels to make it a "thing".
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The Crusades are hardly examples of Christian brutality. Islam invaded Christian lands, the Crusades were Christendom counter-attack. They were no more brutal than any other war in that period. The KKK and Lords Resistance Army are so trivial its laughable that you even bring them up.
There is no denying that Christianity has been a violent religion, but relative to those periods, they were no more violent than the rest. What makes Islam exceptional today is that it is by far the most violent and aggressive major religion.
Anyway, if you want to understand why Islam is a vastly more sinister religion than Christianity, you only need consider their respective originators. Jesus preached peace, forgiveness and humility. Mohammed was a general who waged wars of aggression and slaughtered his captives by the hundreds.
I think you misread my post. I was speaking exclusively about Islam, not Christianity.
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And again we will hear silence, bar a few outspoken people, from the muslim community. Please don't give me the "why don't christians march about child abuse". Two wrongs don't make a right, if people really don't support this mass terror then stand up and shout, don't say "we don't support it, but let's talk about this and that first, then we might come out and help". Make a stand, the floor is yours. So often I see "yea but" statements from the muslim community, "yea of course they are idiots, but lets me talk about this and that".
No, talk about the elephant in the room, own the issue with your community and the people who you share an Island with will come out and support you too, I suspect in their millions. THIS is how right now you bring together your lack of ears in the generations who have lived here and also, those who aren't from your religion who have arrived in the last 2 generations. Do that, show you are part of this country and I guarantee we will join you when you want to talk about the things you want us to discuss, but right now no one is listening to your pleas because of the elephant in the room.
No, talk about the elephant in the room, own the issue with your community and the people who you share an Island with will come out and support you too, I suspect in their millions. THIS is how right now you bring together your lack of ears in the generations who have lived here and also, those who aren't from your religion who have arrived in the last 2 generations. Do that, show you are part of this country and I guarantee we will join you when you want to talk about the things you want us to discuss, but right now no one is listening to your pleas because of the elephant in the room.
Yep.
Spot on.
Funny how these civil wars and inter country wars never happened for a long period of time before Western powers decided to meddle in the affairs of such people. Yet it has nothing to do with anything we have done, we are protectors of humanity....apparently.