Gay marriage legalised in the whole US by the supreme court

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:25

Mitzy said:
Do you have any children?

Doesnt make any difference to the thread if i did or didnt. If i did and they decided they were gay years down the line then that would be up to them. They would know my opinion on the matter but i would still love them dearly!

NEXT!

jetpaczx · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:26

koolpc said:
No because how you post!!

So the fact I have spoken the truth regards to your behaviour and morals is not in question. Its the fact I have kept it simple?

OK pretend I structured it better my points still stand.

The difference between me and you is I have a moral code I live by not dictated to me by some book.

You can call me all the names you want, I am a big boy I can accept it.

And given your post history? Hypocrite much?

Pudney · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:29

dirtychinchilla said:
Also, gay marriage does not go against the beliefs of the C of E, which is the church of this country. They have accepted it.

No, the C of E doesn't accept it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33109170

koolpc said:
Not true. Catholicism existed at the very beginning. It was the church started by Jesus Christ. Protestantism started a long time after. Only the Catholic faith has stuck true to the original bible teachings. Others have twisted things to suit their needs / beliefs.

What about the Eastern Orthodox church?

Mitzy · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:30

koolpc said:
Doesnt make any difference to the thread if i did or didnt. If i did and they decided they were gay years down the line then that would be up to them. They would know my opinion on the matter but i would still love them dearly!

NEXT!

That's not the point I was getting at.

Man of 50, bound to have had sexual relations with the wife and the women you've cheated on your wife with, yes? Well, where are all the kids, I assume you don't use contraception, that's a no no of the Catholic faith.

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:34

jetpaczx said:
So the fact I have spoken the truth regards to your behaviour and morals is not in question. Its the fact I have kept it simple?

OK pretend I structured it better my points still stand.

The difference between me and you is I have a moral code I live by not dictated to me by some book.

You can call me all the names you want, I am a big boy I can accept it.

And given your post history? Hypocrite much?

Look, nobody knows what you are going to face in your life. Knobody can tell 'YOU' what you are going to experience. This has happened to me. I have not had a crystal ball to show me where i will make big mistakes in life! I am no saint!

You have a moral code. I do too. Thing is, i am human and have tripped up in life. Nobody knows where or when this will happen. None of us are super human!

I have very much learnt by my mistakes. This is how we grow.

Grow up now laddy and understand that life has many ups and downs and twists and turns! I very much hope that your road in life is straight and trouble free! God bless you

RoboCod · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:36

I would have thought a grown up wouldn't label gay people as repulsive.

Sankari · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:36

Pudney said:
What about the Eastern Orthodox church?

EOC is hardcore conservative:

The position of the Orthodox Church toward homosexual acts has been expressed by synodicals, canons and patristic pronouncements from the very first centuries of Orthodox ecclesiastical life.

In them, the Orthodox Church condemns unreservedly all expressions of personal sexual experience which prove contrary to the definite and unalterable function ascribed to sex by God's ordinance and expressed in man's experience as a law of nature.

The Orthodox Church believes that homosexual behavior is a sin.

(Source).

Orthodox tradition - which is based on divinely revealed truths - conceptualizes marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

This can clearly be seen in the Book of Genesis (1-2). In these chapters, God creates “the heaven and earth” (Gen 1:1). Then, as a crowning touch, God creates the first couple, Adam and Eve.

In effect, this first union functions to legitimize one divinely revealed truth – that the origins of our understanding of marriage are based on an understanding that it is a union between one man and one woman.

Moreover, it is through this union that God calls humankind to participate in the procreative process that would fulfill His commission to also “be fruitful and multiply.”

(Source).

Anglicans are practically agnostic compared to the Orthodox.

Bear in mind that the Catholic and Orthodox churches did not actually exist as distinct entities until the Great Schism of 1054.

spudbynight · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:36

semi-pro waster said:
Let's be clear incest is not the same thing as a homosexual relationship between two consenting adults. The prohibitions against incest and the societal opprobrium come from two main reasons 1) if there are any offspring then the chance of those offspring having genetic abnormalities is much increased and 2) with incestuous relationships there is often an abuse of position and trust by the elder party. There may be other reasons and the above might not exist in all cases but those cover the main issues.

You don't have to like that homosexual marriages exist but inventing dubious comparisons isn't really advancing your argument against it.

I'm not suggesting that incest and homosexuality are the same thing. You not acting in good faith to say I did.

I replied to a direct point from another poster :

"doesn't mean you get to say that others can't get married"

That argument can be applied to the other examples I listed.

Unfortunately the majority of people who are in favour of the redefinition of marriage refuse to discuss the subject rationally or objectively.

thebennyboy · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:38

Caged said:
Isn't it the Catholic church that buggers boys?

The catholic church had a large problem with Paedophilic priests.

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:41

Pudney said:
No, the C of E doesn't accept it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33109170

What about the Eastern Orthodox church?

Eastern Othodox is as old as the catholic church. They split in approx 1054

jetpaczx · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:42

koolpc said:
Grow up now laddy and understand that life has many ups and downs and twists and turns! I very much hope that your road in life is straight and trouble free! God bless you

My life has not been trouble free, But I am not going to broadcast it on a forum for the world to see. But I know cheating is wrong BEFORE the fact.

God Bless Me? No thanks keep that to yourself

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:43

thebennyboy said:
The catholic church had a large problem with Paedophilic priests.

Yes that is a fact. Big news i guess

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:44

RoboCod said:
I would have thought a grown up wouldn't label gay people as repulsive.

If you could read you would see it is the act that is repulsive not the people!

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:46

jetpaczx said:
My life has not been trouble free, But I am not going to broadcast it on a forum for the world to see. But I know cheating is wrong BEFORE the fact.

God Bless Me? No thanks keep that to yourself

You do not know what is waiting for you around the next corner! None of us do. I hope life is smooth and trouble free for you my friend

Sankari · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:50

Caged said:
Isn't it the Catholic church that buggers boys?

Not professionally, it's just considered a perk of the job.

jetpaczx · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:51

koolpc said:
You do not know what is waiting for you around the next corner! None of us do. I hope life is smooth and trouble free for you my friend

There is no way to reply to this without being negative

. So I will leave it alone.

thebennyboy · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:52

Evangelion said:
Not professionally, it's just considered a perk of the job.

Pudney · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:52

koolpc said:
Eastern Othodox is as old as the catholic church. They split in approx 1054

Evangelion said:
Bear in mind that the Catholic and Orthodox churches did not actually exist as distinct entities until the Great Schism of 1054.

That was my point (not whether they accept gay marriage or not). Stating the Catholic church is the original ignores whether EOC is actually the true inheritor of the original church or the Catholic church...

dirtychinchilla · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:52

I thought Jesus preached equality.

Galatians 3:28 says:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

If you honestly examined the way that Jesus intended his message, do you really think that he would want inequality? Inequality is one of the biggest things wrong with our societies IMO.

Could it be, maybe, that the word of Jesus has been interpreted by other sources to meet their own needs? Catholic church, perhaps?

koolpc · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:55

dirtychinchilla said:
I thought Jesus preached equality.

Galatians 3:28 says:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

If you honestly examined the way that Jesus intended his message, do you really think that he would want inequality? Inequality is one of the biggest things wrong with our societies IMO.

Could it be, maybe, that the word of Jesus has been interpreted by other sources to meet their own needs? Catholic church, perhaps?

You are reading it to suit 'your' needs. Different that! You have to read it in context.