Labour would have pulled money from thin air and transported it to his pocket whilst tickling his nuts though.
Budget 2015: Osborne vs. the Economy
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Labour would have pulled money from thin air and transported it to his pocket whilst tickling his nuts though.
You never asked me anything. As for the cherry picked it's what the IFS said.
But I did miss out...well I'll add it "Squeeze to hit 13m families, says IFS"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33463864
It's like this. One day when you grow up and become a adult and have children you will understand.
so you were too lazy to even cherry pick your own you've actually just copied and pasted from a journalist who has done so...
It's like this. One day when you grow up and become a adult and have children you will understand.
so you're not even able to put forwards a basic argument, you waffle on about some irrelevant point about parents but essentially all you've said is that some people that fall into a specific category are worse off... well no **** Sherlock, when you adjust tax, welfare, some people do better and some people do worse
I really don't get why some people complain about cutting welfare...
I'm not British so could not care less about the long term of the British economy, but welfare should only exist in nations where people are too proud to receive it.
For example, back in Cyprus the welfare was great. The government would even give you a golden spoon to eat the nth course dinner you would buy with your handouts (up to roughly 3k euros a month). However, because people are proud, only the REALLY needy had to get welfare and most of them would be put back to their feet by help from the state/community. It worked well, until the recession hit, and the needy multiplied, in which case the state could not afford it any more, and that's when the bailout happened and they cut most of it off.
Over here, people think it is their right to have kids and get benefits. I understand kids are not to blame and they should not suffer, but something had to be done. At the end of the day, the government and every government has to consider the good welfare of the most and for the long-term. If some people have to suffer in the meantime, so be it.
What's better? A small percentage suffering now for the greater good?
Or "no one" suffering short-term and then a big percentage suffers later?
I know which one I'd pick.
I'm not British so could not care less about the long term of the British economy, but welfare should only exist in nations where people are too proud to receive it.
For example, back in Cyprus the welfare was great. The government would even give you a golden spoon to eat the nth course dinner you would buy with your handouts (up to roughly 3k euros a month). However, because people are proud, only the REALLY needy had to get welfare and most of them would be put back to their feet by help from the state/community. It worked well, until the recession hit, and the needy multiplied, in which case the state could not afford it any more, and that's when the bailout happened and they cut most of it off.
Over here, people think it is their right to have kids and get benefits. I understand kids are not to blame and they should not suffer, but something had to be done. At the end of the day, the government and every government has to consider the good welfare of the most and for the long-term. If some people have to suffer in the meantime, so be it.
What's better? A small percentage suffering now for the greater good?
Or "no one" suffering short-term and then a big percentage suffers later?
I know which one I'd pick.
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Can somebody explain the budget to me like I'm five because I've been out of it.
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They cut corporation tax by a percent or so in future years, not much else is a big deal. The idea is it enables companies to employ / operate more easily
The rest is fluff and a lot if buts not really just it sounds good
The rest is fluff and a lot if buts not really just it sounds good
Sadly there are some people who fall through the cracks and genuinely depend on welfare for whatever reason - that would be like kicking someone when they are down. I'd quite happily increase my contribution if it came to it though I detest those who take advantage of the system or are too lazy to work.
Pensions aside the cost per tax payer for stuff like JSA is actually pretty low.
Indeed there are... which is why concepts like communities and kindness should kick in and assist our fellow human beings in need... unfortunately society has become a lot more alienated the last couple of years..
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£80 a year better off. Groundbreaking stuff 
Pretty happy with the budget, except for the public sector bumming.
Pretty happy with the budget, except for the public sector bumming.
This budget clearly hits working families hard. Once again, its nice to see the 2years being given to help their rich friends get out of dodge, much as they did for the Swiss banking tax evasion.
The Government or other "stringpullers" have succeeded in dividing the nation and the press do it. The BBC is an epitome of how media can be subversive in what it says and what actually goes on, I heard that one of the main people at the BBC was also on several boards of other major MNCs. Things such as this creates a conflict of interest. If you look up MPs you will find all and sundry as to their dirty dealings and backroom lies and deceit. Its almost as though in order to work in Politics you've got to behave as corrupt as possible.
A few examples:
Harriet Harman - Convicted multiple times of speeding and in the last case found to be doing 99mph... really??? 1mph less than an instant ban... so what has happened she has used her legal contacts (possibly through her sister) and had a quiet word with a corrupt Judge who in turn has bent the system to say it wasn't 109mph she was doing but 99mph
Peter Bone - Once bragged he hired people at his company and was paying them 87p per hour
David Cameron - His £250,000 Premier League dinners
This is just the stuff that is reported!!! True Story bro *nods head* a family member of mine went to Dubai in 2010 and in one of the super posh places in walked Gordon Brown, when she went to take a picture, security rushed over and said if you take any pictures your phone will be confiscated. Now... we can easily construe Browny was there to meet Blair over some deal or agreement.
In closing, this budget is a disaster. One action... close corporate loop holes and it would end all financial strife in this nation!
The Government or other "stringpullers" have succeeded in dividing the nation and the press do it. The BBC is an epitome of how media can be subversive in what it says and what actually goes on, I heard that one of the main people at the BBC was also on several boards of other major MNCs. Things such as this creates a conflict of interest. If you look up MPs you will find all and sundry as to their dirty dealings and backroom lies and deceit. Its almost as though in order to work in Politics you've got to behave as corrupt as possible.
A few examples:
Harriet Harman - Convicted multiple times of speeding and in the last case found to be doing 99mph... really??? 1mph less than an instant ban... so what has happened she has used her legal contacts (possibly through her sister) and had a quiet word with a corrupt Judge who in turn has bent the system to say it wasn't 109mph she was doing but 99mph
Peter Bone - Once bragged he hired people at his company and was paying them 87p per hour
David Cameron - His £250,000 Premier League dinners
This is just the stuff that is reported!!! True Story bro *nods head* a family member of mine went to Dubai in 2010 and in one of the super posh places in walked Gordon Brown, when she went to take a picture, security rushed over and said if you take any pictures your phone will be confiscated. Now... we can easily construe Browny was there to meet Blair over some deal or agreement.
In closing, this budget is a disaster. One action... close corporate loop holes and it would end all financial strife in this nation!
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100mph isn't an 'instant ban' neccesarily.
No, what has happened is that you've formed a strong opinion on something based on hearsay.
Even if 100mph was an 'instant ban' you'd need more than just a bent judge to retrospectively change a police report, and for what possible reason, total overkill and utterly pointless, it'd be a short driving ban not a prison sentence, hardly worth that level of risk.
Lol, should have connected her phone to a cloud and did it anyway.
Meanwhile a good proportion of the general public voted to "punish" and get rid of the Lib Dems - many of whom are actually pretty decent people and for the most part made the best of the circumstances they had to deal with in coalition.
This is why I posted asking if you're "acting thick or argumentative"
A single parent working 20 hours while her child is in school\nursery. Is way better then a single parent
sitting on their ass calming dole and getting fat.
You couldn't spot that because of your selfishness and argumentative.
lol, when you resort to throwing around insults you've already lost
yes, a part time worker on a low hourly rate loses out in this budget, we've been over this
in the grand scheme of things though cutting down on tax credits and raising the minimum wage is probably a good thing
yes, a part time worker on a low hourly rate loses out in this budget, we've been over this
in the grand scheme of things though cutting down on tax credits and raising the minimum wage is probably a good thing
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A bent Judge... you mean like Constance Briscoe? Another MP being allowed to dodge things because of illegal behaviour and then it gets discovered and in this case released by the press to guarantee a scapegoat of a wider scandal.
Fox knowing you as a motoring man, would you not agree that an MP consistently breaking the law of the road... a quick google informs me that Harman faced charges for:
2003 - 99mph (haha really?) £400 fine
2007 - Speeding fine paid late (we know what happens if we do that!)
2007 - Another Speeding instance
2010 - Driving and crashing because she was using a mobile (note: Brake condemned the leniency of the sentence which the Judge then felt he/she had to justify? Smacks of corruption)
Subjective or otherwise though my views may be, it is but a short step to consider what logically may have happened. If you learn anything about politicians, what may be reported as to their complicit lifestyles is only just scratching the surface. They all have back doors into everything.
Agreed. It is such a pity. 37% of vote out of 60% eligible voters gets a party the chance to subject its ideology onto people.
Like him or loathe him, hoping to god London votes in Galloway... I can imagine the City are prepared to throw millions at any opposition to divide any of the vote he may attract.
