Gay marriage legalised in the whole US by the supreme court

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Dimple said:
Jesus started his Ministry when he was around 30 so he probably did live a normal Jewish boy life up until then.
Just because that side of his story is missing from the Bible it doesn't mean that he wasn't married with kids.
Even the Catholic Church has now back tracked on Mary Magdelene but they obviously won't come out and say they think they were married.
Mary was allowed to anoint Jesus's feet which was a job reserved for a wife (apparently).
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Which makes so much sense due to the earlier age at which people were seen to marry and not being married could be viewed as a sin.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
If we lived in a world where homosexual marriage was the norm, then yes I would feel I had the same rights.
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I'll ask again, how can you argue 'only being able to get married to someone they are not attracted to and can't love' is equal to 'being able to marry someone you love and are attracted to'

You are arguing that polar opposites are equals, which makes no sense.

Thompson_NCL said:
I'd also recognise my perversion for marrying women was not the norm and I had no right to afflict to the whole of society for my ego.
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I'll ignore your pathetic implication that gay people are perverts and just ask (again), how two people of the same sex being allowed to legally define their relationship as 'marriage' affects you, your relationship or the rest of society in any way, shape or form?

Thompson_NCL said:
I am usually not allowed to use the ladies bathroom in any given establishment, but its not a problem because men have their own separate room for their business.
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Worst analogy ever.

The problem with your mindset is all your arguments are dependent on the presupposition that being gay is unnatural, unwanted, harmful, not normal etc.

Once you accept that the reality that is homosexuality is abundant in nature and therefore both normal and natural your reasoning against it falls apart.

You're acting as if being gay is some kind of lifestyle choice and that if someone who identifies as such just married a women, he'd see the errors of his ways and live a happy married life like any heterosexual couple.

The truth is if a gay man married a woman it would be a loveless courtship doomed to fail. So telling gay people they have the rights as you is asinine as you have the right to marry someone you love and possibly live happy ever after with but without gay marriage they don't.

The irony is forcing gay people to marry straight woman is genuinely encouraging an unnatural relationship.
 
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koolpc said:
This forum is just full of atheists! So many of you that have a deep hatred for anything or anyone religious. Very sad indeed.
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I thought it was a deep hatred of you :p:D;)

I did not see the bible as a tome to live every facet of my life by... There is some parts I don't mind and some points are just so barbaric or alien to me.

Most of all I try to be a decent human being.
 
There isn't really any point in debating the matter with individuals who are dead set in their intolerance (which is also called being bigoted, but it would appear that calling them bigots is far too offensive for some precious cup cakes so I'll refrain from labelling them that).

There is no changing an intolerant view point. Just be happy in the knowledge that their viewpoint will slowly phase out and cease to exist in society. The only way it might exist will be in a completely unacceptable manner, one that they could be charged for by law, much like racists are dealt with.
 
koolpc said:
This forum is just full of atheists! So many of you that have a deep hatred for anything or anyone religious. Very sad indeed.
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I agree this forum is full of atheists, I am one. I do not agree that many have 'a deep hatred for anything or anyone religious' though. I think most people here, like myself, do not think religion should form the basis of arguement against something that has nothing to do with religion. Each religion may have their or definition or rules on marriage and if you believe in that religion then it is your right, if you choose, to follow the definition or rules. However marriage is not a religious thing (though I accept religion forms a large part of it for people) and therefore religion should not form the basis of an arguement against marriage.
 
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RoboCod said:
There isn't really any point in debating the matter with individuals who are dead set in their intolerance (which is also called being bigoted, but it would appear that calling them bigots is far too offensive for some precious cup cakes so I'll refrain from labelling them that).

There is no changing an intolerant view point. Just be happy in the knowledge that their viewpoint will slowly phase out and cease to exist in society. The only way it might exist will be in a completely unacceptable manner, one that they could be charged for by law, much like racists are dealt with.
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There isn't really any point in debating the matter with individuals who are dead set in their intolerance (which is also called being bigoted, but it would appear that calling them bigots is far too offensive for some precious cup cakes so I'll refrain from labelling them that).

There is no changing an intolerant view point. Just be happy in the knowledge that their viewpoint will slowly phase out and cease to exist in society. The only way it might exist will be in a completely unacceptable manner, one that they could be charged for by law, much like homosexual lobby teaching children in Russia are dealt with. :rolleyes:
 
koolpc said:
'Old Fashioned' views are not silly. Look where the world is now. Look how low society is these days. Its because 'people' have thrown morals out the window. Anything goes these days and the world is suffering for how evil the world really is. The world is full of filth and hate and war and low morals etc etc.
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*alerts the police that koolpc is in danger of joining IS*
 
Tosno said:
much like homosexual lobby teaching children in Russia are dealt with. :rolleyes:
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What does this even have to do with the discussion at hand? It doesn't even make sense.

Rolleyes too. Fantastic :)

I'd love to have this discussion in person with half of you lot. Wouldn't half be entertaining.
 
Haha, I can't believe there is an actual debate taking place about whether a few bigots should be allowed to stop two people in love from getting married. Ridiculous, I hoped that the UK has gone beyond the Fascist ideals of inflicting your opinions on others.
 
The whole Jesus story sounds pretty gay once you think about it. He gives up the chance of having a wife to travel around with a bunch of other single men who literally do what ever he says. He also at one point, spends a whole afternoon getting nailed by buff dudes in uniform.
 
Bigot must be the new word on OcUK this year!

So sad to see most of the atheists being blasphemous without knowing what they are saying. You hate 'religious' people like me because you have no faith. You are mad that someone like me has true faith in God. It makes you so angry you have to spill abuse my way! I hope that God will forgive those that call his name in vein.

Just to put the thread back on track, as the Atheists keep diverting it to have a go at the 'believers', true marraige is for a man and a woman. Not to people of the same sex who like to prance around in parades yelling at the world!! Marriage has always been about a man and a woman, about 'true families'. However you like to see it, read it or talk about it. That is a fact!

God bless you all!
 
Tefal said:
and he was all about not judging people wasn't he? seem to remember him telling a tale about a Samaritan and knocking about with a hooker.

she should have been killed if you followed Leviticus.


Whats interesting is if koolpc had is "moral" world wed have all thrown heavy things at him till he was dead for his sin, yet instead he's been allowed to completely violate the sanctity of marriage and carry one without issue.

yet him who violated it in its most fundamental way is now banging on about how letting people who love each other marry is sacrilege.


Pretty sure that Jesus fellow had something to say on this matter to, he who is without sin cast the first stone?

yet here we have a sinner against the sanctity marriage leading the charge.
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Your response is hilarious, unintentionally I'm sure.

You're an atheist right? Quoting the Bible to someone who doesn't believe a word of it.

Can you see how ludicrous that is?
 
It's funny how the religious are the ones filled with hate and bile, despite what their religion teaches.

It's funny how they say its not natural FACT! The fact is homosexual acts as well as masturbation is extremely natural and observed in many species.

It's also funny how the religious say marriage is a religious ceremony. Like usually they are clueless of the origins of many things including their holy texts and don't want to or cba to find out. Marriage was only very recently officially recognized by the church.
 
Glaucus said:
It's funny how the religious are the ones filled with hate and bile, despite what their religion teaches.

It's funny how they say its not natural FACT! The fact is homosexual acts as well as masturbation is extremely natural and observed in many species.

It's also funny how the religious say marriage is a religious ceremony. Like usually they are clueless of the origins of many things including their holy texts and don't want to or cba to find out. Marriage was only very recently officially recognized by the church.
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I am not filled with hate etc. Thats just an atheists counter attack at a Christian!

Homosexual 'acts' is very much 'not natural'.

How recent then was marriage officially recognised by the church please?
 
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It's not quite certain because marriage predates historical text. However, the church coined the monogamous marriage in the ninth century.

Edit: a quick Google might suggest the church became involved in marriages in 5AD. I therefore demand that all marriages in the heterosexual church sense be deemed unsolicited and invalid!
Marriage is a pagan ritual and Christians can stay right out of it, prancing around yelling to everyone in parades that they're Christian! Who do they think they are?
 
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Yes you are filled with hate and bile as can be seen by your posts. Has nothing do with an attack or atheists. Seeing as i don't even consider myself to be atheist.

Wasn't officially recognized untill 1184. Marriage pre dates the teachings of Christ and religion in general.

It very much is natural as document in many species.

But as usual, you'll just reply in stupidity.
 
Glaucus said:
Yes you are filled with hate and bile as can be seen by your posts. Has nothing do with an attack or atheists. Seeing as i don't even consider myself to be atheist.

You are attacking me here!! Talk about hypocritical! You just hate Christians thats why you have to hurl abuse my way! Who have i attacked? :rolleyes:

Wasn't officially recognized untill 1184. Marriage pre dates the teachings of Christ and religion in general.

Waw!! That is recent then!! :rolleyes:

It very much is natural as document in many species.

But as usual, you'll just reply in stupidity.
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You need to do more reading!!
 
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