I'm crumbling...

[AMDJoe]

Listen I don't need to justify anything. I'm not the sort of person who needs to validate and justify his life, because out of everything in my life the computer is the least important thing to me (there's my wife, my great family, my life away from the computer, my RC model cars etc).

What you're trying to do here is rubbish what I bought, and that's a nasty game to play. Olbocks can you get a 980ti that out of the box will out perform a Fury X by 30%. I just ain't having that. Maybe in a couple of games with the wind blowing in the right direction and so on? but universally over every game? poppycock.

The drivers for Fury X are still incredibly premature, much like the release. I'm not worried AT ALL about the drivers getting better because I absolutely know they will. Then, when the card actually circulates (because right now it's rocking horse poo) and you can meaningfully overclock it?

Mind you now I'm falling into your argumentative trap. I don't overclock any more and nor do I want to.

Bottom line, should I actually need this justification you seem to think I crave?

Out of the box the Fury X *will* be quicker than what I had. It *will* be quieter, cooler, and use around 200w less power than my rig did and I won't have to worry about drivers.

So please, stop with the 980ti jizz fest because it's all elementary. I've bought the card, so now you're just wasting your breath (and looking rather spiteful and nasty whilst you go about it).

Cheers.

You had me "poppycock" <3

 

[andybird123]

Listen I don't need to justify anything. I'm not the sort of person who needs to validate and justify his life, because out of everything in my life the computer is the least important thing to me (there's my wife, my great family, my life away from the computer, my RC model cars etc).

What you're trying to do here is rubbish what I bought, and that's a nasty game to play. Olbocks can you get a 980ti that out of the box will out perform a Fury X by 30%. I just ain't having that. Maybe in a couple of games with the wind blowing in the right direction and so on? but universally over every game? poppycock.

The drivers for Fury X are still incredibly premature, much like the release. I'm not worried AT ALL about the drivers getting better because I absolutely know they will. Then, when the card actually circulates (because right now it's rocking horse poo) and you can meaningfully overclock it?

Mind you now I'm falling into your argumentative trap. I don't overclock any more and nor do I want to.

Bottom line, should I actually need this justification you seem to think I crave?

Out of the box the Fury X *will* be quicker than what I had. It *will* be quieter, cooler, and use around 200w less power than my rig did and I won't have to worry about drivers.

So please, stop with the 980ti jizz fest because it's all elementary. I've bought the card, so now you're just wasting your breath (and looking rather spiteful and nasty whilst you go about it).

Cheers.

I wasn't replying to you, someone questioned what I said so I replied to them, thats the nature of an open forum

Theres no spite at all, I don't know why you're feeling so defensive.

You did ask for benches though and in specific games, the games you asked about show what they show but now you're ignoring those results.

As I've said, you've made your choice and that is absolutely fine, I'm not having a go at you, your choice or your new purchase. But the furyx isn't within 1% of the cards you were looking at, it just isnt, whichever way you look at it.

Buying AMD just because its AMD is fine, as is saying you specifically want an AIO, that just isn't what you originally asked. No you don't need to justify anything or get validation and I would feel deeply sorry for anyone who came on this forum looking for either

 

[Firefox35]

Listen I don't need to justify anything. I'm not the sort of person who needs to validate and justify his life, because out of everything in my life the computer is the least important thing to me (there's my wife, my great family, my life away from the computer, my RC model cars etc).

What you're trying to do here is rubbish what I bought, and that's a nasty game to play. Olbocks can you get a 980ti that out of the box will out perform a Fury X by 30%. I just ain't having that. Maybe in a couple of games with the wind blowing in the right direction and so on? but universally over every game? poppycock.

The drivers for Fury X are still incredibly premature, much like the release. I'm not worried AT ALL about the drivers getting better because I absolutely know they will. Then, when the card actually circulates (because right now it's rocking horse poo) and you can meaningfully overclock it?

Mind you now I'm falling into your argumentative trap. I don't overclock any more and nor do I want to.

Bottom line, should I actually need this justification you seem to think I crave?

Out of the box the Fury X *will* be quicker than what I had. It *will* be quieter, cooler, and use around 200w less power than my rig did and I won't have to worry about drivers.

So please, stop with the 980ti jizz fest because it's all elementary. I've bought the card, so now you're just wasting your breath (and looking rather spiteful and nasty whilst you go about it).

Cheers.

Whoa, calm down! as long as you are happy with your decision then that is all that matters!

P.S you won't have to worry about drivers because you won't get any!


Ok I'm outta here

 

[Martini1991]

HDMI 2 can be used if you use a displayport adapter.

Limited stock is due to limited HBM supply.

We do give a toss. All the feedback I receive is communicated to AMD. Things take time! And when it comes to drivers, yes AMD could release more drivers but they wouldn't be an acceptable standard. And reading several threads on here and on other forums, it looks like the green team are having driver issues as well.

If you have any feedback then DM me! I'll pass it on to AMD. If you have any technical issues then message me, I'll get our technical support engineers on it. They only things I can't do is lower the price of cards, talk about future products, give you free cards, and perform a strip tease at your birthday party

I'm happy to see people buying cards that they want and not being swayed by other people. It's that freedom of choice that's awesome whether you're after a 980Ti or a Fury X. As long as you can game they way you want then I'm happy.

If AMD listen, why do they keep making the same silly mistakes over and over again?
It's like amateur hour.

 

[ALXAndy]

Theres no spite at all, I don't know why you're feeling so defensive.

Because you are being aggressive with your posts. I'm not even going to explain why because you obviously don't get it.

I asked for benches of the 980ti vs my Titan Blacks so I could conclusively prove that one new card beats two old ones. Point proven, job done. I can read, mate, I just couldn't find the sort of games I wanted to see benched. That was for that reason though, not the one you are making out. I'm not ignoring the results, you just think I am. Do you think now then that I am incapable of reading?

Barring that set of awfully Nvidia biased results you posted I've read pretty much every Fury X review there is. And the upshot is the Fury X is a fine card at 4k. Finer than what I had, cheaper than what I had (I made a nifty in the trade in) cooler than what I had, far quieter than what I had, uses 200w (a full Titan Black's worth of power) than what I had.

Repeat ad nauseum...

The Fury X is only not within 1% in your biased review. Every other site has it within 1% at 4k with both cards stock.

As for that argument (about me buying the 8 pack). The 8 pack is 30% more expensive than what I paid, so that scuppers that argument. £575 vs £450. That's about 30% more (though could be ever so slightly less) but the point remains, it was still very cheap. IIRC the cheapest Fury X I saw at launch was £529 and they all sold out like hot cakes, so £450 was awesome (thanks again to Greg for not gouging me, what a decent fellow).

BTW the chances are had I gone 980ti that I would have gone stock blower cooler for SLI. Even though the 8 pack is mean and meaty I still don't rate open coolers for SLI whatsoever. At least with Fury X the heat is isolated and doesn't bother the other card should you fit the rads to the outer shell of the case bringing cold air in, easy with the X.

But again, all of that is elementary because deep down I had already chosen the Fury any way. That's what I watched, that's what I read the reviews of and that's what I wanted. And I found one, hurrah.

I made the decision right at the point Nvidia made that lame assed apology about the 970, whilst not even offering a solution. Hardly makes me trust them, nor want to hand over even more money to them knowing that the 980ti could actually have an achilles heel that could come to light later on down the road.

Oh yeah, one last thing. Before you even raise it, that review is bias. They are putting one card you can heavily overclock with full tools and software against one you can't. That's biased.

Give the Fury X a chance, and give AMD some time as they're obviously completely snowed under right now.

P.S you won't have to worry about drivers because you won't get any!

Wow. No seriously, I totally didn't see that one coming. LMAO.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

HDMI 2 can be used if you use a displayport adapter.

Limited stock is due to limited HBM supply.

We do give a toss. All the feedback I receive is communicated to AMD. Things take time! And when it comes to drivers, yes AMD could release more drivers but they wouldn't be an acceptable standard. And reading several threads on here and on other forums, it looks like the green team are having driver issues as well.

If you have any feedback then DM me! I'll pass it on to AMD. If you have any technical issues then message me, I'll get our technical support engineers on it. They only things I can't do is lower the price of cards, talk about future products, give you free cards, and perform a strip tease at your birthday party

I'm happy to see people buying cards that they want and not being swayed by other people. It's that freedom of choice that's awesome whether you're after a 980Ti or a Fury X. As long as you can game they way you want then I'm happy.

As vendor rep for AMD on this site, when are your chums at OCuk going to get some more stock

Been anxiously waiting almost a month for my Fury X.

PS. Damn my birthday is next month a strip tease would have been ideal!

 

[Firefox35]

And the upshot is the Fury X is a fine card at 4k.

But you will need two of them in order to play at 4k with settings at max and then you are at the mercy of AMD's awful crossfire driver support.

Cue the ALXAndy determined to punish AMD thread in the near future

Give AMD some time as they're obviously completely snowed under right now.

They will use that as an excuse in the driver thread, apologies for no drivers this month but we are a little snowed under. LMAO

 

[andybird123]

Well I completely apologise, because the way I read it you were hoping to stay on single card until next year when e.g. Pascal would be out, I think was the wording you used

I've just read back through hexus' other reviews and they don't seem biased to me, but I went in search of high factory OC 980ti's as that was what you'd asked for, and in wolfenstein and metro were the two games you asked about, were there any others?

I was more thinking that if you maximised your fps on one card you'd be able to stick with one card, and with gsync even more so, so ~£600 as opposed to basically commiting yourself to spending ~£900 on two cards which it looks like youve now done

Anyway, if you want to discuss it I'm more than happy to reply to any questions or comments, or if not then also fine
Other people also read threads like these so seeing what factors help other people to make choices is also useful to some.

But rest assured I mean no spite or aggression, I've not used any sort of name calling have I?

 

[ALXAndy]

But you will need two of them in order to play at 4k with settings at max and then you are at the mercy of AMD's awful crossfire driver support.

Cue the ALXAndy determined to punish AMD in the near future thread

I can tell just how many reviews you have read properly, then.

That would be none.

Tell me, if I am maxing out every single game on my PC apart from Witcher 3 at 4k then how can it be that a single card that's actually faster would perform worse?

/countdown.. do do da do do da doodle doodle, doodle a do BOOW.

 

[bru]

As for that argument (about me buying the 8 pack). The 8 pack is 30% more expensive than what I paid, so that scuppers that argument. £575 vs £450. That's about 30% more (though could be ever so slightly less) but the point remains, it was still very cheap. IIRC the cheapest Fury X I saw at launch was £529 and they all sold out like hot cakes, so £450 was awesome (thanks again to Greg for not gouging me, what a decent fellow).

One tiny problem with your whole stance on this. Yours is second hand.

 

[Firefox35]

I can tell just how many reviews you have read properly, then.

That would be none.

Tell me, if I am maxing out every single game on my PC apart from Witcher 3 at 4k then how can it be that a single card that's actually faster would perform worse?

/countdown.. do do da do do da doodle doodle, doodle a do BOOW.

Errrrrrrr I have owned a pair of Fury's hence me saying if you want to play at max settings at 4k at a reasonable frame rate you will NEED two.

Of course if 30 - 40 fps is acceptable then you're good to go.

 

[fs123]

But you will need two of them in order to play at 4k with settings at max and then you are at the mercy of AMD's awful crossfire driver support.

Cue the ALXAndy determined to punish AMD thread in the near future



They will use that as an excuse in the driver thread, apologies for no drivers this month but we are a little snowed under. LMAO

Except that crossfire Fury X/Pro scaling is about 90%+ and beats any 980ti SLI setup. Even the bog standard Fury kills it. Crossfire drivers are no worse than SLI drivers, no matter what the fanboys say.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947547/components-graphics/amd-radeon-fury-crossfire-review-2-fast-2-furious.html

 

[ALXAndy]

Well I completely apologise, because the way I read it you were hoping to stay on single card until next year when e.g. Pascal would be out, I think was the wording you used

Yup it was. I highly doubt I will go Crossfire X because I hate it. See? unbiased solid wise points of view there.

I just explained to whatever his name is that this card is faster than what I had, and, I was actually doing perfectly well at 4k with what I had all apart from Witcher 3. So, logically, if this card is faster (because it is, 1% slower than a 980ti) then I will actually get a better experience.

Also, the only games coming out between this card and Pascal that I actually want, will buy and will play are Mirror's Edge 2 and Fallout 4.

Do you reckon the Fury X will struggle with either of those?

Again you're bringing up factory OC third party cards, something that does not yet exist on the AMD side that's biased, don't you see? it's like comparing two Honda Civics but one has been turbo charged and tuned. Honestly, stop it, I'm really not that stupid.

As for G-sync? again, you are putting words into my mouth ! I've not bloody mentioned that once but boy, you sure ran with it didn't you?

I don't care about Gsync with one card. I only wanted it for SLI to help improve the massive drops you get with SLI. IE - when you are running a 70 FPS scene for example a micro stutter can literally bring you down to 0 FPS. Gsync really helps to alleviate that.

I won't need that with one card, Vsync will do...

Honestly Andy, you really are creating an argument here that does not exist. You're also wasting your valuable time, because I am not the sort of person who changes his mind. I am very loyal to how I feel and I wanted a Fury X. So there's no point trying to show me up or anything (which is what you are trying to do) because honestly this argument is like shooting fish in a barrel. You're actually stooping to inventing things, just because you read somewhere that I have a Gsync monitor.

Unbelievable !

And BTW dude there is such a thing as passive aggression. IE - spamming this thread with benchmarks that show a 980ti beating a Fury X etc. There's no need now, I have a Fury X, so all you are doing is being spiteful.

And it's that sort of spite that is making people walk away from here.

 

[ALXAndy]

One tiny problem with your whole stance on this. Yours is second hand.

So? seen any second hand 980tis for less then have you?

Money talks. That's what I paid for a Fury X.

 

[TwsT]

Not really, Its Twst. Gotta be let out of the padded room for a bit of fresh air occasionally

Fresh air brings about a breif moment of clarity where rational decisions are made. Like giving up with the 295 x 2 and going back to the simple hazard free life of single gpu solutions

I have no preference but i won't be adopting g-sync or freesync at this point as I don't want to tie myself to a brand with hbm2 on the horizon.

Dammit TwsT Keep some impartiality in your posts!

I am entirely impartial.

A second hand fury sounds like a good purchase imo. I've got nothing against the cards I just won't use crossfire ever again

 

[JediFragger]

Guys guys calm it down, it's only hardware

Take a chill pill and breaaaaaathe

 

[bru]

So? seen any second hand 980tis for less then have you?

Money talks. That's what I paid for a Fury X.

Opens browser, type in the name of a popular auction sight, type in NVidia 980ti, see prices from £435 upwards.

That would be a 'YES' just in case you didn't understand the sarcasm above.

 

[ALXAndy]

I don't buy GPUs from auction sites. How uncouth.

 

[andybird123]

Eh? You said that if you were going to buy a 980ti that it would be a "special" one, like the HoF. You also said that you weren't going to overclock either. So the comparison you actually asked for was factory OC vs stock FuryX, but now that is biased?

I posted two benchmarks, one for wolfenstein, a game you specifically mentioned, and one for the fastest out of the box 980ti with gtaV (another game you mentioned) again, looking at your stated requirements I thought it matched. Two times in 4 pages is now spamming?
I also did both before you confirmed you had bought the furyx, so it was supposed to be useful info, not "spite"

I only mentioned gsync because you mentioned you had a gsync monitor and that it improved things in gtaV. I never said you stated it as a requirement, but most people would want to keep it.

Basically, post to post your requirements keep changing, its hard to keep up. I'm not trying to change your mind as you've already done that. As I said I'm happy to discuss it with you if you want to.

 

[fs123]

So? seen any second hand 980tis for less then have you?

Money talks. That's what I paid for a Fury X.

Exactly. If someone gets a card that's literally 2-3 weeks old what difference does it make? It doesn't affect the performance at all and in fact makes it a better bang for buck card all round.
Some people seem to have no issues comparing a stock FX to a maxed OC 980ti but kick up a fuss when a used FX is compared to a new 980TI

Opens browser, type in the name of a popular auction sight, type in NVidia 980ti, see prices from £435 upwards.

That would be a 'YES' just in case you didn't understand the sarcasm above.

You forgot to mention that the cheapest cards are not from the UK

The only cards showing for £435 + £14 postage are from the USA and customs is $150 (£96) on top of that. The cheapest UK 980ti I saw was £515 used.
that would therefore be a 'NO' you cannot get a 980ti cheaper than £450.