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D.P. said:
Gamesworks is not vendor specific, unlike say Mantle.
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I'm obviously referring to the fact that AMD cannot optimize code for Gameworks features, meaning AMD GPU's performance running them is complete garbage.

NVIDIA won't give the source code to AMD.

I suggest reading up on the Witcher 3 hairworks situation, if you've not heard of it.
 
ALXAndy said:
Well I've seen none in the MM.

But yeah, the 980ti is selling well atm and people aren't selling them. Mind you I've not seen any Fury X either apart from one on MLG for £495.
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There's a 980ti zotac amp extreme for sale at avforums

Edit sorry its the regular amp
 
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ALXAndy said:
So you feel the need to insult me because I bought a Fury X, which is 1% slower than a 980ti at 4k yet cost me 13% less?

I know a few people in this industry and apparently the people who code the voltage support and so on for GPUs did not get samples of Fury X, it's that rare. So, I am confident that with that and better drivers Fury X will eventually win in any case.

Now as for your fan boy comment? let me work it backwards for you.

Titan Black SLI
GTX 670 SLI
GTX 480 SLI
7970 (drivers did not work with my monitor)
6970 Lightning (died)
GTX 470
R 5770 CFX
GTX 280
8600 GT SLI

So as you can see, thankfully I have the brain power in place to be able to make my own mind up without being swayed by 'fan boys'. If anything I am an Nvidia fanboy (though again like I mentioned before not the rabid dog kind) but I was determined to punish Nvidia for the 970 fiasco so I have.

Maybe I will return to them in the future but I vote with my wallet, this time they lost me due to lying and then patronising thousands upon thousands of people.

And yes, I'm fully aware you can overclock a 980ti to make it conclusively a little bit faster but I don't care, given I'm pretty sure the AMD will meaningfully overclock in the future. FWIW I don't overclock GPUs any way.
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I had no idea what you had against Nvidia hence why I asked what I did, and although it was a little insulting it wasn't meant to be accusatory at all - I was genuinely curious what your issue was. You feel a moral obligation to abstain from Nvidia products because of the 970 incident - fine.

It also looks like you chose the Fury X. Well for a start they perform best at 4k and, according to PcPer, two of them scale particularly well - even better than two 980 Tis. So it's a decent choice. I'm personally worried about the effectiveness of crossfire profiles given their reputation.
 
Dave2150 said:
I'm obviously referring to the fact that AMD cannot optimize code for Gameworks features, meaning AMD GPU's performance running them is complete garbage.

NVIDIA won't give the source code to AMD.

I suggest reading up on the Witcher 3 hairworks situation, if you've not heard of it.
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AMD can optimize code for Gameworks though.
Of course nvidia doesn't provide source code, why should they. AMD can optimize in the same way they optimize all other games, by analyzing the DX call stack at the driver level.


I suggest you read up on the witcher 3 situation, because obviously you only listened to the AMD PR rubbish. AMD Hawaii cards did poorly with hairworks purely because the cards have terrible tessellation performance. Go have a look at how much better Fury does in the Witcher 3 with hair works ON.

AMD need to be careful spreading such FUD otherwise they might get NVidia suing them for libel.
 
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