Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible

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I would say it's because we consider the Scots to be our brothers that we don't want them to leave. We certainly don't hate them.
 
Well despite wanting a yes vote for purely emotional reasons. The vote was no.

I can live with that. Despite being disenfranchised.

However as a Brit working in Europe I'm very disappointed they won't allow me to vote on the EU in/out issue. An issue which could have huge repercussions for my lifestyle.

Oh and the idea of anyone hating English outside of the banter within sports sickens me.
 
lovelyhead said:
For me it is about far more than money. It is about self determination. I would still vote Yes if my income was cut in half.
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This is what I don't understand, when it comes to the links between the UK and Scotland then money goes out the window and it's about "self determination" but when the EU referendum pops up, Scotland holds up its arms and starts shouting about how financially damaging it would be for them to leave the EU.

If it is about self determination then surely leaving the EU would be just as high on your list as leaving the UK.

The SNP's argument is basically "We don't want our laws made in Westminister where we have some control and some elected members but we'll fight for unelected bureaucrats in Brussels to carry on legislating for us" :confused:
 
ThePirateHulk said:
Do you think Scotland is getting good value for money there?
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That may be the case but Scotland is the one holding the axe to the possibility of siting long term strategic assets there not England. Geographically it would make perfect sense for them to placed there as that is where the axis of threat would come from and has come from for many years. But above all they need to be a location of security for a long long time and that is something that Scotland is precluding not England.
 
When this one falls over as well, it'll be 'A third referendum is inevitable' ... then a fourth, fifth, etc etc etc.

Salmond is a ****.
 
[TW]Fox;28366974 said:
What is the point in a referendum if the side that lost can just keep holding them until it eventually wins?
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exactly if theyd won would thye be saying a referendum on rejoining or stopping the exit would be on the table?
 
lovelyhead said:
Nah. It was a lot more simple than that. People are scared of change and also are easily manipulated using Fear, uncertainty and doubt tactics. These tactics were used by the full force of the establishment against the Scots. It is encouraging to see that 45% stood firm in the face of it!

As for feeling hated:

LeeUK says: Alex Salmond just wants his own way to hell with anyone else. He needs shot.

Salsa Says: Ahh the good old 45%. The ill informed, vocal minority championed by an articulate and manipulative snake with an inferiority complex are back because they didn't get their way! People should know when to quit.

TwsT says: The cult of the SNP is actually quite worrying

ATPBX says: Watching Salmond destroy the country with his fantasy economics would have been a once in a life time opportunity.

Russell664 says: Alex Salmond - Where is his letterbox, I would like to send him a little 'package'.

Terminal Boy says: Wouldn't work that way as we'd outsource manning the border to the Chinese. They're very efficient at making undesirable elements disappear.

And that is just on this thread so far. Scots have a reputation for hating the English. I think people have that backwards!
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Be careful of mistaking a hatred of Salmond for a hatred of the Scots. Lots of English people hate Blair and Cameron, doesn't mean they hate their country.
 
My disdain for the snp is not a disdain for Scotland or it's people. You're allowed to vote for who you want I'm allowed to think it's a bad idea.
 
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lovelyhead said:
As for feeling hated:

LeeUK says: Alex Salmond just wants his own way to hell with anyone else. He needs shot.

Salsa Says: Ahh the good old 45%. The ill informed, vocal minority championed by an articulate and manipulative snake with an inferiority complex are back because they didn't get their way! People should know when to quit.

TwsT says: The cult of the SNP is actually quite worrying

ATPBX says: Watching Salmond destroy the country with his fantasy economics would have been a once in a life time opportunity.

Russell664 says: Alex Salmond - Where is his letterbox, I would like to send him a little 'package'.

Terminal Boy says: Wouldn't work that way as we'd outsource manning the border to the Chinese. They're very efficient at making undesirable elements disappear.

And that is just on this thread so far. Scots have a reputation for hating the English. I think people have that backwards!
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Hatred of Salmond is not the same as hatred of Scotland, hence why most Scots dislike him. In fact you could argue that hating Salmond makes you a fan of Scotland as you hate the person seeking to destroy it.
 
yonderblue said:
100% support Salmond, We should have as many referendum's as it takes until Scotland breaks free from the dis-united corrupt immoral Union.
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why bother with the referendums why not just do it by force then?

rather than waiting till you finally grind down the percentages through apathy till you have a "majority" ?
 
Belly said:
I always thought we did! Well, I learn something new each day.
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Who's we? I thought the UK was one entity? I am getting conflicted messages.

[TW]Fox;28366974 said:
What is the point in a referendum if the side that lost can just keep holding them until it eventually wins?
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Maybe if I repeat this enough then it will sink in.

If the SNP have a manifesto promise to hold another referendum and they are elected on that basis then it is the will of the people to have said referendum.

The will of the people is all that matters. Not some posh **** in London.
 
lovelyhead said:
Maybe if I repeat this enough then it will sink in.

If the SNP have a manifesto promise to hold another referendum and they are elected on that basis then it is the will of the people to have said referendum.

The will of the people is all that matters. Not some posh **** in London.
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They didn't for the last election did they? So why is Salmond going on about now?
 
Tefal said:
exactly if theyd won would thye be saying a referendum on rejoining or stopping the exit would be on the table?
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Another daft comment. See my previous post and I will it expand on it by saying that should Scotland become independent, there is nothing stopping a unionist party from having a Manifesto pledge to hold another referendum. If that is what people want they will vote for that party and they can have their referendum.

If they win and the rUK want us back then so be it.

Democracy peeps.

RDM said:
They didn't for the last election did they? So why is Salmond going on about now?
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He can go on about it all he want's. There are currently no plans to hold one.

Tefal said:
why bother with the referendums why not just do it by force then?

rather than waiting till you finally grind down the percentages through apathy till you have a "majority" ?
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Because unlike what the EBC will have you believe, we like democracy up here!
 
lovelyhead said:
Maybe if I repeat this enough then it will sink in.

If the SNP have a manifesto promise to hold another referendum and they are elected on that basis then it is the will of the people to have said referendum.

The will of the people is all that matters. Not some posh **** in London.
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So people voted purely for the SNP on the manifesto promise in isolation did they?

The will of the people was for the SNP not necessarily for one of their manifestos. To present as you have is logically and factually incorrect.
 
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