Unhappy ? you probably live in London then.

With >10% of the countries population in the city it's no surprise. It would be intersting to see who the voters were.

There are horrid places everywhere, and nice ones.

Personally I'd take B&D anyday over the "cheapest" areas of other cities like Manchester, Nottingham or Glasgow.
 
Should move to Essex. Apparently everyone is awesome, white teeth, silly hair, tramp stamps and jobs in reality TV. :cool:

Seriously though, anywhere in the world can be great or crap, it comes down to who you know and socialise with. People make the place, not the other way around. ;)
 
With >10% of the countries population in the city it's no surprise. It would be intersting to see who the voters were.

There are horrid places everywhere, and nice ones.

Personally I'd take B&D anyday over the "cheapest" areas of other cities like Manchester, Nottingham or Glasgow.

The voters were the people who live in those areas.
 
Some parts of London are fantastic. Others not so much. I see that Harrow is listed as one of the worst areas of London and I can believe that. We lived in Pinner for a few years which is right next door. While Pinner was lovely at the time we could see just how bad Harrow was getting so moved away 7 years ago. When I visit my wife's family there nowadays I know we made the right decision. It's a pit.

But other parts of London can be lovely. It's such a large place that there are very likely to be "regional" variations. When I was young places like Harrow weren't really considered to be London. But nowadays anything inside the M25 is deemed to be.
 
Personally I'd take B&D anyday over the "cheapest" areas of other cities like Manchester, Nottingham or Glasgow.

But you wouldnt need to live in the cheapest areas of those other places because the prices arent comparative.

IE my one bed flat in Camberwell gets me a 3 bed semi in Chorlton/Didsbury. Which makes me much happier.
 
London transport is terrible, too hot in summer and lots of time wasting. A lot of people have small houses with no gardens. There is no real place to go in summer except parks. Then the winter is miserable because its winter. I think that has a lot to do with it. It is also very busy everywhere and a lot of people have bad attitudes, especially during the week. London is ideal if you like to shop or go to pubs/restaurants every day on the weekend and can afford to do that. I also think as its so busy and a lot of people use public transport they don't have cars. While in smaller towns everyone has cars. The thought of going on public transport on a nice hot sunday puts me off travelling.
 
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London transport is terrible, too hot in summer and lots of time wasting. A lot of people have small houses with no gardens. There is no real place to go in summer except parks. Then the winter is miserable because its winter. I think that has a lot to do with it. It is also very busy everywhere and a lot of people have bad attitudes, especially during the week. London is ideal if you like to shop or go to pubs/restaurants every day on the weekend and can afford to do that. I also think as its so busy and a lot of people use public transport they don't have cars. While in smaller towns everyone has cars. The thought of going on public transport on a nice hot sunday puts me off travelling.

I think you have just summed up why so many choose the areas surrounding London - best of both worlds really.

To the OP, all I am really saying is that London is no worse than usual IMHO, not at an all time low as you suggest. I say this having lived in London boroughs from Zone 2 to Zone 6 for 20 years.
 
London transport is terrible, too hot in summer and lots of time wasting. A lot of people have small houses with no gardens. There is no real place to go in summer except parks. Then the winter is miserable because its winter. I think that has a lot to do with it. It is also very busy everywhere and a lot of people have bad attitudes, especially during the week. London is ideal if you like to shop or go to pubs/restaurants every day on the weekend and can afford to do that. I also think as its so busy and a lot of people use public transport they don't have cars. While in smaller towns everyone has cars. The thought of going on public transport on a nice hot sunday puts me off travelling.

groen, how does that compare to, say , South Africa? What does the comparison look like? Genuinely curious :)
 
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groen, how does that compare to, say , South Africa? What does the comparison look like? Genuinely curious :)

That's the beauty, whilst not perfect, it is a literal million times better than anything back in SA :p

Also, 13.5 years living in London, and I still love it, probably helps that I live in SW London though.
 
I hear this a lot from people who live in London....you should try public transport outside London from time to time...then you'll realise how good it is

In the one year i was using First Transpenine Express, i didnt get a single train on time. Not one. 10 - 15 minutes late every time, which screws up your connections. At least 1 cancelled train per week.

Unbelievable.
 
I still think the biggest reasons are personal space and freedoms. When you look at the worlds "happiest" countries you get something similar to the list above. Other than a couple of exceptions people with more personal space and wild/open places nearby are generally more happy. With the space normally comes bigger houses/gardens, less pollution and noise and many other benefits.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/10302485/The-worlds-happiest-countries.html
 
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