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AMD's GPU market share drops again, even after the release of Fury X

Yeah got to agree, still on the 28nm after all these years, its well stagnated, not exciting at all now, but hopefully the newer cards on the 14nm, with the HBM2 etc... will kick some life back into it, and some killer games, now that Dx12 is here.

Geeman1979 said:
The Fury E's an abortion. You did right going with the Air cooled version, from what I've seen it's a decent card.
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Yeah brilliant cards the non 'X's, couple or so frames slower, fantastic quiet air coolers, as i said before somewhere, i should have just gone for these from the get go, very happy with them, much better cards than the 'X's, due to their poor pumps. :)
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah got to agree, still on the 28nm after all these years, its well stagnated, not exciting at all now, but hopefully the newer cards on the 14nm, with the HBM2 etc... will kick some life back into it, and some killer games, now that Dx12 is here.



Yeah brilliant cards the non 'X's, couple or so frames slower, fantastic quiet air coolers, as i said before somewhere, i should have just gone for these from the get go, very happy with them, much better cards than the 'X's, due to their poor pumps. :)
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If a Lightning version materialises, I could be tempted.
 
Total discrete GPU (desktop and notebook) shipments from the last quarter decreased -17.07% and decreased -26.27% from last year. Sales of discrete GPUs fluctuate due to a variety of factors (timing, memory pricing, etc.), new product introductions, and the influence of integrated graphics. Overall, the CAGR from 2014 to 2017 is now -6%.
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andybird123 said:
That's the APU included report, so desktop APU sales saw a big knock
The full discrete report isn't out yet, Q2 is usually down on Q1

NVIDIA were down 12%, AMD were down 33% in discrete
The full report will give an actual total number which will make it a bit more real
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Total GPU sales are down 26% since last year. The discrete GPU market is collapsing. Intel have the smallest drop in graphics shipments including IGP.

Nvidia have done better since you could argue cards like the GTX750TI and GTX960 and the GPUs behind them have a better OEM focus.

Iris Pro is when Intel became serious about attacking lower end discrete and with HMC they are a huge danger to not only AMD but even Nvidia.

Remember they still have cutting edge fabs and the capacity to match - they need to keep them used. Even with the massive issues they are at full 14NM production yonks before TSMC or GF!


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People need to worry about is Intel and HBM/HMC once they get this on their apu we could lose almost all low end and a lot of the mid end cards never mind mobile as they eat into more of the low end and higher.

Without low and mid end sale where most cards are sold how will they get money for R&D yes nvidia has money in the bank but if intel and mobile start to push for market share in the low and mid end it leaves Nvidia in a tight spot and Amd has a chance if the new cpu's are any good but I can see them struggle with selling cards, the shrink might help sales for nvidia and amd but i am worried what intel does with HBM/HMC.
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Agreed,especially since they can use the previous generation nodes to produce the L4 cache or HMC,which means they can keep their fabs chugging along making money.

Even,looking at some of the Fruity products,Iris Pro replaced lower end AMD or Nvidia graphics in a number of their laptops and desktops.
 
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shankly1985 said:
No one cares!
I don't know a single person who looks at stock market before buying any single product!
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True. But I looked on how many drivers amd was releasing last year before buying my 290X. And look how that turned out.

I'm now back with NV and the 290X is back in it's box.
 
I'm not saying that the discrete market isn't collapsing but wasn't it decided in the other thread that the 970 is the best selling card ever, that seems very strange for a collapsing market.

The sooner we get of 28nm the better.
 
well it would do when they can only get a dozen Fury X sold in the UK lol.

I'm more than happy with my horrendously bad doomed gpus. Couldn't care who gets the market share, I'm not anti Nvidia, I just put my money where the bang for buck is.
 
bru said:
I'm not saying that the discrete market isn't collapsing but wasn't it decided in the other thread that the 970 is the best selling card ever, that seems very strange for a collapsing market.

The sooner we get of 28nm the better.
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I doubt it was the best selling card,especially when some of the lowend Nvidia and AMD GPUs have been rebadged for a trillion years and were being given away in every OEM box. I think its more enthiusiasts and shops saying its the best selling GPU. It might have been one of the best selling "enthusiast" cards but again unless we are going to compare the sales figures for the last 10 to 15 years,it means nothing,especially in a contracting market.

I would think the 8800GT or 8800GTS and their billion rebadges sold more over their long lifespans.

In fact out of dozens of gamers I know,most don't even have a GTX970. I know more GTX980 owners than GTX970 owners(LOL). I know far more having cards like a GTX750TI,GTX760 and the like.

The figures don't lie,there is a 26% drop in discrete card sales YoY,and its happening faster than the contraction in the PC market. Intel has the smallest drop meaning most of those lost AMD and Nvidia sales are now Intel IGPs,with Nvidia leeching off an increasingly stagnant AMD lineup.

Even the top end Broadwell IGP is getting very close to a GTX750,and the total package TDP and power consumption including the CPU is probably comparable too!

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Gigabyte-Gaming said:
Hi guys. This is my first post here.

After years selling cards for Gigabyte I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is the GS 8400 followed by the GT 210. If you check you can see that some brands are still selling the GS 8400.
What you might not know is that the GS 8400 has had a GT 210 chip for several years already so maybe GT 210 chip has been sold more than the original GS 8400 chip.
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New designs on finfets from all parties and Low abstraction apis could see a future boost. The majority of current hardware does everything fine. It's not like the old days where a new generation saw significant advances. The biggest boost to performance recently was the release of high speed SSD's.

The other reason for the down turn is because hardware is good enough for 1080p60 right now for the majority of people.

That and most games people play are not that demanding, hence referring back to my first point.

What is needed is that killer game with Low abstraction api's and even VR in mind.
 
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AMD 18% share in Q2. Wow what a surprised record break. :eek:

By end of Q2 only 1,000 Fury X shipped and sold in first day worldwide, 200 series stocks clearances with prices cuts and new 300 series was been on sales for 2 weeks had all not helped AMD increased marketshare.

I will be surprise if AMD Q3 marketshare continue collapsing to 15% would be another record break.
 
It does seem to be as innovation and progress goes down, (meaning less demand) that prices are going up to offset so they can maintain profit margins.

Bit boring for the consumer, I think things will get more exciting next year. With finally get a die shrink and a real jump in tech with HBM 2.0 etc. Hopefully it will be like a reset in the DGPU space, as the long road on 28nm has led to massive stagnation. With only the GPU whores like myself bothering to upgrade frequently..
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
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bookmarked for when the Q3 and Q4 results come out :D

I think we need to bear in mind that both nvidia and AMD had product launches late in Q2, so people "not buying" in Q2 is very likely to be because people were waiting to see what happened.

If CAT is right then we shouldn't see any kind of uplift in the Q3 and Q4 results.
 
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