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Yes and driving will still be a higher risk than both.
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Yes and driving will still be a higher risk than both.
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Just seen the newer (much, MUCH closer) video on BBC. Scary
Is there a link to the unedited version?
Wonder if he blacked out momentarily or something from pulling the loops the way it lurches at the last point he could have recovered it suggests something went wrong at the controls (not just miscalculation or panic) or some kind of air pocket type effect.
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Deaths per flight for general aviation exceed that of driving so don't know where you get that idea.
Why? Most air crashes are caused by pilot error.
Not all military jets have them fitted and depending on operational requirements they may be removed if fitted....
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I think the comment intends to say that if you are thinking about getting into a car and driving on the A27, an aircraft landing on you should be quite some way down the list of concerns compared to the highest risk; a traffic on traffic collision. Not that you should feel fine displaying in a vintage aircraft because air travel is statistically the safest.
I tend to agree with that original post, though aviation needs to remember that it has a huge responsibility to the safety of people on the ground and is not a superior entity.
Bad things I've seen include a flying school making deliberate low passes over an event with horse riding and children. In that case one of the adult riders stood in the runway to force the aircraft doing touch & go practice nearby to stop until the police came. The police weren't too happy with the pilot, the aviation authorities (in NZ) didn't seem to care about anyone on the ground and fined the bloke for standing on the runway, poor show.
the A27 will be shut till at least Wednesday - and the police have forewarned of potentially more deaths as they lift the wreckage.
this does remind me of 1 incident - 1988 @ RAF Abingdon ; a phantom F4 being flown by 2 RAF crew went for a loop but the apex was lower than normal. I'm sure you can go from there the final result.
this does remind me of 1 incident - 1988 @ RAF Abingdon ; a phantom F4 being flown by 2 RAF crew went for a loop but the apex was lower than normal. I'm sure you can go from there the final result.
That's what happens when wings stall and at a high angle of attack.
Also ITT people think experienced pilots are infallible, they are not and that should be blindingly obvious.
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Are commercial flights trying to do loop the loops a few hundred feet above the ground ?
This might seem an obvious question but can't they ensure they're at a higher altitude before doing loop the loop? Being that it's meant to be an air show is it a matter that these stunts are pushing the boundaries of what's possible too far for what is meant to be a show?
I just watched the footage, having previously avoided doing so, because I didn't particularly want to... Since it is down the road from me...
I cannot state my thoughts on the pilot for performing that stunt where he did, rather than over the vast amount of nearby fields, lest I cause quite a stir with all the OcUK muppets who will make any excuse to counter my opinion, but I will say that were he not dead, I think he should have received a hefty prison sentence and have been stripped of whatever accolades he may have had.
I am absolutely staggered that he even attempted to perform that stunt there, and I feel this strange kind of anger which I don't feel often...
Furthermore, at the last moment, he swerved to the left and appeared to line up with the junction, and then levelled out and hit it. I know the area very well, there are vast fields to the left of that road before the industrial complex, and there are hundreds of acres of farmland to the right. Why would he choose to do the stunt there, why would his final movements appear to line the jet up - dead on - with one of the busiest junctions in the area?
That junction is where cars have to pass through to exit the local area, it is the biggest junction on the route out of the town going towards the A/M23, it is also where the enterance to the airport is, where cars queue to enter the parking facilities to watch the airshow.
Had he performed the stunt in any of the more appropriate locations, because of how flat the land is in the area, everyone would still have been able to see the stunt just fine.
So why would he perform the stunt there, and what were those final movements meant to achieve?
I cannot state my thoughts on the pilot for performing that stunt where he did, rather than over the vast amount of nearby fields, lest I cause quite a stir with all the OcUK muppets who will make any excuse to counter my opinion, but I will say that were he not dead, I think he should have received a hefty prison sentence and have been stripped of whatever accolades he may have had.
I am absolutely staggered that he even attempted to perform that stunt there, and I feel this strange kind of anger which I don't feel often...
Furthermore, at the last moment, he swerved to the left and appeared to line up with the junction, and then levelled out and hit it. I know the area very well, there are vast fields to the left of that road before the industrial complex, and there are hundreds of acres of farmland to the right. Why would he choose to do the stunt there, why would his final movements appear to line the jet up - dead on - with one of the busiest junctions in the area?
That junction is where cars have to pass through to exit the local area, it is the biggest junction on the route out of the town going towards the A/M23, it is also where the enterance to the airport is, where cars queue to enter the parking facilities to watch the airshow.
Had he performed the stunt in any of the more appropriate locations, because of how flat the land is in the area, everyone would still have been able to see the stunt just fine.
So why would he perform the stunt there, and what were those final movements meant to achieve?
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Seems to be going around, 2 planes collided at a swiss air show http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34033478
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